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I have a pair of bose 901, v1 I have a old pioneer vsx 5300

I youse the required eq, and tape moniter function. I need a lot more power I think to drive theese. what are your thoughts ??

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    David Dunn May 15, 2010

    Fill in some blanks here. What's the symptom? More power? That's subjective. What's the amp? If this is really 901 V1 then you'll need a LOT of power. Good article:http://www.epinions.com/content_46918944... "Keep in mind that Series I & II are considerably less efficient than Series III thru VI. Amplifier clipping should be avoided and one must choose an appropriate amp for each series. "

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Not knowing anything about your specific amplifier or if it correctly configured for the 901 Active Eq, the first thing I would say is these are designed for analog stereo sources ONLY and a multichannel digital-capable receiver will NOT work properly with any devcie in a Tape loop.

There is no way around this part. Get a separate power amp for the 901's if you want to use them in a multichannel way or alongside non-901 speakers.


Connect the Active EQ between the pre-outs and the amp input. Run speaker assignment, levels, etc and have fun.

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