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Horizontal electric hot water tank installtion

Can a conventioanl electric hot water tank be installed horizontally?
If yes, what extra steps need to be taken?
We are renovating a bathroom that has the hot water tank in it and would like to re-install the tank horizontally in the crawl space below the bathroom.
Thanks for your help

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  • Willow_AK May 27, 2008

    Yes, I do have a need for a horizontal hot water tank, but GAS.

    I have also heard this style referred to as a "Pancake style," which uused to be used approx 30 yrs ago.

    Where can I get one?? Thank you in AK.

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Water heaters are designed to be installed upright. The dip tube allows for cold water to be distributed to the bottom of the tank, and to be heated as it rises. Installed horizontally would defeat the purpose of the dip tube, it would heat the volume of water in the tank, but almost immediately the water would get cold.

The tankless water heater is the best for your situation. You only mentioned electric, so I assume that is your only option. There are several options in an electric tankless. You need to decide what gpm (gallons per minute) you need for your situation.

If it is an option, the gas tankless water heater has a better gpm rate options, but you have to take into consideration the issue of venting.

Both options, are a lot smaller than that of a conventional water heater.

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Hello; no, unfortunately conventional elec. water heaters are only designed to operate in the upright position. one alternative is an electric tankless model. but beware there are a few things to explore about them before making the decision.

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