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T104 clock stopped running. must now use switch

T104 clock stopped running. Must now use switch to opperate pool pump on and off. Should we be replacing the whole timer or just the clock motor? we are not sure what we should be purchasing to fix the issue.

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Yes, you can replace the timer motor to solve the problem. For the Intermatic T104 you'll need to purchase the 208/277 volt timer motor. Part number is WG1573.
http://www.aplussupply.com/intermatic/timer.htm

If you don't want to mess with replacing just the timer motor you can purchase a new timer and swap just the guts with the old timer as long as the existing enclosure is still in good shape.

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Pool time switches pool on, but off does not trip off, and can't do it manual. When I push it on off, the pool pump tries to stop but continutes running. Have to use breaker box.


Model number of timer is not known.
Is this new installation? Or installation that worked before and recently stopped working?
If the manual override lever on timer does not turn Load on-off, then 1) wiring is wrong or 2) timer has gone bad or 3) pump has a short.
I suspect a short since you say the pump 'tries to stop running.'
Copy following links for troubleshoot walk-thru, and correct wiring:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timers.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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Can you send a scematic showing how to wire an intermatic pool pump timer to a polaris intermatic timer so that when the pool pump shuts off so will the polaris pump yet the polaris timer clock continues...


No. I don't have a wiring schematic without knowing what voltage you are using, specifically what Intermatic timer you have, specifically what wires you have coming from breaker box, what wires are on the pump, and what pump rating plate says, what the wiring diagram shows on side of pump, whether you are wiring a 2-speed pump to a single-speed timer, specifically what is the polaris timer clock, and why this pump needs two timers if that's what you mean.
Add a comment with specific information so electrician is not guessing.
http://www.poolcenter.com/polaris-booster-install-OM.pdf

Open following link for 240Volt T104 timer wiring diagram.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

Aug 25, 2011 | Intermatic T104 24h 208-277v Mechanical...

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Pool pump starts randomly (as if there is a short) even when it is not set to start and stop. Otherwise works fine, not sure if I need to replace unit or dissassemble and clean or ????? T21004R


Sounds like 240Volt WG1573 clock motor has gone bad and needs replacement. But more checking is needed.

You posted under T2100-4R which is 60 amp Intermatic control panel with a single T104M 240Volt timer mechanism.
All Intermatic timer mechanisms can fit into same control center, so you can possibly have different timer mechanism inserted into the T2100-4R control center.
The control center can have up to 4 circuit breakers.
Instruction manual shows that timer can also have fireman's switch that is wired to pool heater and causes pool heater to turn off 20 minutes before pool pump turns off.
http://www.poolandspacontrols.com/products/mechanical%20controls/60%20amp%20pool%20and%20spa%20control%20panels.aspx

(1) First thing: If you have T104 mechanism, do a troubleshoot run-down to see if trippers, clock motor, or wiring are suspect:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html

(2) Next would be to check the circuit breakers for loose wires, burned connections, or the smell of burning or crackling sound that says breaker is loose on the busbar.

(3) Check for loose wiring on T104 and test circuit:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
(a) Push the manual override lever to OFF position and test across terminals 1 and 2 and then across terminals 3 and 4 to make sure timer is turning off power to pump. Both tests should show 0 volts.
(b) Push manual override lever to to ON position and repeat test above. Both tests should show 240 volts.
If the test fails, then buy new T104M timer mechanism.

(4) If the T104 timer is turning off both lines in the 240Volt circuit, then pump cannot turn on since neither wire is Hot.
However if your T104 timer is actually a T101 timer or if timer has different wiring, where timer is turning off only 1 leg and not both legs of 240Volt circuit, then pump has one hot wire available and a short to ground could cause pump to turn on unexpectedly.

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I bought a house that had an intermatic t104 running timer running the pool pump. It worked for a little while then the clock stopped turning. The manual switch still worked to turn on the pool. I...


If you only have a Black wire, White wire and a ground wire, you are only wired for 120 volts. For 240 volts you have to have two Black wires or a Black and a Red as well as a White (neutral) and a ground.

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Open following link for wiring diagrams and manual.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

240Volt T104 can be wired many different ways.
What is the significance of 'next to the pool pump timer?'
Are you getting power off the 240V pool pump timer to operate the new T104? This is perfectly fine. The pool pump wires would bring power from the breaker box.
Is the new T104 going to control 120Volt lights? The timer can do that, it just has to be wired correctly.
In any case, the T104 has 240Volt (or 277V) clock motor, and clock will not operate with 120V

If you add specific details, I can help with exact wiring diagram for your project.

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I have an intermatic T104P3 timer for my pool and now it won't turn on. I have to start the pool on manual. I have tryed to remove the screw to start and it goes right by it and does not set the pool on....


Hi Dianna, I am timer expert at Fixya

1) When you say screw, I believe you mean tripper?
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2) Trippers are placed on dial using thumb screw. Clock motor located on back of mechanism rotates dial. So dial rotates as time passes.
On-off trippers rotate around on the dial and push a lever back and forth that turns pump on-off.
Trippers are designed to wear down so that timer mechanism lasts longer.
You can buy replacement trippers for T100 series timers at Grainger:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi

3) You posted under T104 timer.
Notice that grainger also sells WG1573 240Volt clock motors for the T104.
Clock motors slow down and burn out.
Clock motors are replaced by tipping mechanism out of box using thumb spring located inside box at top. Clock motor is attached with 2 small star screws. Buy star screwdriver at auto parts or hardware.
When ordering trippers, you might want extra clock motor on hand for when the dial stops rotating.

4) Open following link to see manual and wiring instructions for T104.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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Timer stopped running so I replace timer motor. However the timer still does not run. I can still turn pool pump on manually. Will I have to replace entire unit?


T103 clock motor is 125 volt WG1570
1) If you bought the 240V WG1573, the clock will not operate
2) If you connected the motor wires to wrong terminals, then clock will not operate.
3) If original box label says T103, but 240V T104 was installed in same box, and you bought wrong voltage motor
4) Test for 120Volts across terminals A and 1, and make sure clock motor matches voltage of timer, and clock motor wires are connected to terminals A and 1.
Open following links:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#103

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T104 clock stopped running. must now use switch


Yes, you can replace the timer motor to solve the problem. For the Intermatic T104 you'll need to purchase the 208/277 volt timer motor. Part number is WG1573.
http://www.aplussupply.com/intermatic/timer.htm

If you don't want to mess with replacing just the timer motor you can purchase a new timer and swap just the guts with the old timer as long as the existing enclosure is still in good shape.

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Pool pump timer not working


Push the clock dial in to see if that will engage the clock again. Also here is the manual if you need it.

http://www.intermatic.com/images/instruction_sheets/T104.pdf

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