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Kitchenaid Dishwasher KUDS24EPL4 bottom door seal how to install.

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  • Johnh339 May 07, 2010

    Hi Phil,

    The dishwasher started to have a leak on the right side from what appeared to be with the door seal or from the tub spacer.

    I replaced the door seal ( the long piece that in on the inside tub not on the door itself).

    The leak continued on the right side and from observation was coming from the tub spacer ( the plastic piece that sites by the door hinge and returns water from the door.

    When you order those parts it comes with a bottom door seal so since the other seal was replaced then I went ahead and planned on replacing the bottom door seal.

    That seal however as I looked at it could be installed on one of two lips on the door and it could be installed to in either of two directions.

    After I replaced the various seals the leak ( as with all good intentions, the punishment soon follows !) became a solid flood from across the "whole' of the bottom of the door.

    At this point I had one of three options.

    Buy a new dishwasher and replace it in the dead of night so as to avoid my wife's " I told you to call someone as you can't fix things you are a Computer Geek".

    However, having been married for 40 years now, I have found that a dozen roses, box of chocolates and a gift card to Nordstrom will for the most part make up for my lack of " Which end of the screw driver am I supposed to use " Geek abilities I was looking for a possible alternative to all of that.

    Or I could use Duck Tape to seal the entire bottom of the dishwasher ( using black tape to throw my wife off for a while), tape the entire underside and lay a small plastic pipe to carry away the water so as ensure no one would notice the leak.

    or
    Ask for help.

    While Option one , replace the dishwasher is still on the table I am going to try the fix you sent and maybe still salvage some shred of dignity

    I was going to add a fourth fix of " shaving my head and becoming a groupie for Lady GaGa but I really don't like her music that much and since I am already " almost bald as a cue ball" not many would notice the radical change in my hair management.

    I will let you know if the fix works.

    Thanks again

    John



  • Johnh339 May 07, 2010

    Well looks like Option # 1 ( Replace) as with the front covers off to watch where / if a leak occurs I noted the pump motor has a lot of corrosion on it and has leaks in 4 places, including one that leaks on to the pump motor wiring.

    I have always been a bit reluctant to mix water with a lethal level of AC power so a new machine is in the end a safer bet.

    The roses, Chocolate and Nordstrom would happen anyway !

    Thanks for your help, I did replace the seal. The " grove" that clips onto the lip of the door makes sense once you see how it seals the door when the door is closed.

    It did indeed fix my door leak but in doing so showed the motor and the floor under the motor which indicated the long term leak and corrosion.

    Not matter how I looked at that seal I could figure out how it actually sealed the bottom of the door.

    I kept looking at it while the door was open and couldn't see the logic of the design as it didn't make a seal.

    I think I needed a NCIS Agent Gibbs whack on the back of the head for that one !

    Thanks again.

    John


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Hi,

The seal has 3 pieces, the long one snaps into the grove in the bottom of the inner door panel. The 1st image below will show the orientation of that seal (part 7).

The other 2 pieces are on the corners and the door has to be removed. Please see the 2nd image for details.

Before you do this, I have to ask why you are replacing this, if the dishwasher leaks when the pump shuts off (like a surge of water) then the issue is not this seal, it is related to the upper spray arm, it is ether come detached or it is broken or the tube that feeds the spray arm is broken.
Let me know if you have questions.

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Posted on May 07, 2010

  • Philip May 07, 2010

    Hi John,

    Love the comments. I can relate as this is my 30th year of marriage.

    Let me know what I can do to help a fellow tech from being in the doghouse.

    Phil


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