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Leaky tine seal - Troy-Bilt Pony Garden Tiller

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  • onekawrider May 05, 2010

    I have the parts I need ordered but I can not get the tines off on the right side I have hammered, used a slide hammer and it is just stuck, any suggestions

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    Kelly May 11, 2010

    I take it the tine drive shaft is leaking where the shaft passes through the lower part of the transmission case. IF you provide a model and serial number I can point you to the source for your parts. The tines will have to be removed and the shaft cleaned up to remove and install the new parts. Kelly

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Hi, On the stubborn ones I use large wood screws in as many places as possible to lift it out. (some times as many as 6 screws.) You put them through the center part of the facing. You may have to use a smaller screw to make a hole for the bigger screws. Then screw them all evenly to lift it out.

If that does not work I drill holes in it until I can break the old seal into pieces and then pry it out with a screwdriver. Some of them can really be stubborn. The key is to be careful if you use a drill because if you don't get all of the drill shavings out it will cut the new seal you installed.

Hopefully you do not have the kind of seal that is installed on the inside of the gear case where the case has to be separated to remove the seal. I have not seen one of those since the old Wheel Horse Tillers. Sorry to hear of the struggle your having but I think with persistence you will get it out.

Kelly

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    Kelly May 05, 2010

    I am just doing a follow up. Were you able to pry the old oil seal free per instructions?



    Kelly

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    Kelly May 06, 2010

    Seems that your still having no luck in removing the seal and took that frustration out in the form of a lousy rating. I just passed on about 35 years of experience and got rewarded with a 1 thumb rating. It does at times make us wonder why we spend so many hours a day for free attemting to help people.



    Last and worst case scenario is that you take a mini-chisel or make one out of a screw driver and hammer through the face of the seal and pry it out with what ever it takes. Needle nose, vise grips,

    scredriver or more chiseling. etc.



    If there is anything I can possibly pass along to help you that I can think of I will pass it along. At the moment you already have what I would attempt and do in a place of business for a customer in order to try and free the pesky oil seal.



    Again thanks for giving FiXya the opportunity to try and assist you.



    Kelly

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    Kelly May 06, 2010

    In my first "clarification response" I asked for a make and model number. I did say that with that info I could point you to a parts source. I also need that information so I can look up exactly what your working on. If you want me to help you I need that information.



    Thanks,



    Kelly

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    Kelly May 06, 2010

    I must apologize for not seeing that you were having problems with the tines on the RH side not wanting to move.



    If you have the mounting bolt out take either a tow strap or a chain and connect the chain 90 deg from where your going to pry with a long bar being very carfeul not to bend the tines and then change directions in trying to rotate the tines with the chain / tow strap and bar. You can also use a large puller with u-bolts and the chain or tow strap. The U bolts have to cross / oppose the pulling force of the puller by laying them over opposite sides of the puller so that they do not jump off when tension is applied.



    After that..... well... you probably do not want to hear this but it is going to take a torch to heat the tines mounting area to free it. I am not sure if a hanld held propane torch will get hot enough.



    Kelly

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    Kelly May 06, 2010

    If you have not already used a "penetrating oil" to try and losen the tines from the shaft you should do so. Liquid wrench is one of many brands. Spray it on and let it sit for at least an hour then spray it again and attermpt tine removal. WD 40 will not losen it but will lube the shaft for tine removal.



    Kelly

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    Kelly May 06, 2010

    If you have not already used a "penetrating oil" to try and losen the tines from the shaft you should do so. Liquid wrench is one of many brands. Spray it on and let it sit for at least an hour then spray it again and attermpt tine removal. WD 40 will not losen it but will lube the shaft for tine removal.



    Kelly

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Replace it ... complete instructions in your owners manual.

Posted on May 04, 2010

  • A Miller May 05, 2010

    Tines or holder? The tiles will come off if you remove all the bolts ... Remove the cover if you have not.



    Keep a nut loosly on the shaft to protect them. Tap the holder side to side, up and down and laterally again and again ... it will come off but it will require some work.

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