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Phillips CDR 570

Hi there,My Phillips CDR 570 will not un finallize anymore and just now, when I record on it, it will not update the last track. What can i do?Cheers,Barry

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Let's start with an assumption... you're using ReWriteable discs.

What specific message do you get when you try to unfinalize it?

When finishing a recording, what does it display instead of "update" when you stop?

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The Philips directory lists a few CDR200 models but the documentation contains directiosn for CDR765.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/c/

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I have the CDR-200 and did not have the manual either. However, I did discover the same problem and found the solution. There is a "confirm" button on the front of the unit under the display area. After you press the record button "Record" will begin to flash in the display area and then you press "Confirm". It should start recording. Note however the following:

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Before starting this procedure make sure you have an AUDIO recording CD in the RECORDER tray of the CDR-200. A regular CD-R type of disc for computers is not going to work and may cause an annoying message on the display which does not go away until you put the right type of recording CD in the unit. It must be either an AUDIO CD-R or an AUDIO CD/RW.

1. When copying from an external cassette deck, you should set the source (press source button) until the setting is "Analog".

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3. When copying from an external cassette unit, you use the "Record" button to start the recording. At the end of the cassette track you MUST press the STOP button by the CD Recorder tray. After you press STOP the unit will say "Update" which indicates it is closing out the track on the CD-R. You can continue to write tracks by pressing RECORD again, then CONFIRM when the tape is positioned at the right PLAYBACK track. It is usually helpful to have a few seconds of blank tape at the start of the PLAYBACK track before pressing RECORD. Press play on the cassette deck, then RECORD followed by CONFIRM on the CD burner.

4. When the track has finished burning you must press STOP to close the track on the CD-R. After you press STOP, the unit will display "Update" to indicate it is updating or closing the track. When the process completes, the unit will display the tracks it has written to the CD-R and will be ready for you to copy another track or FINALIZE the CD-R. When the unit is waiting after the STOP, you can change the cassette tape, reposition to a playback track and ready the playback tape for more recording. When the PLAYBACK tape is ready repeat STEP 3. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you have about 14 or 15 tracks on the CD-R.

5. When you have finished recording about 14 or 15 tracks onto the CD-R, you will want to finalize the CD-R. Press the FINALIZE button, and then press the CONFIRM button. You will see the the unit start to display the progress of the finalize by advancing the level meters of the left and right channels in the display. When the unit is finished finalizing it will return to the number of tracks display for the CD-R. After finalizing the CD-R you can play it back to make sure the burn was successful. Be sure to wait for the tracks display before removing or playing the CD-R after the finalize is done. Removing before the finalize is done may damage the unit and may render the CD-R bad.

BURNING FROM THE PLAYBACK CD
Before starting this procedure make sure you have an AUDIO recording CD in the RECORDER tray of the CDR-200. A regular CD-R type of disc for computers is not going to work and may cause an annoying message on the display which does not go away until you put the right type of recording CD in the unit. It must be either an AUDIO CD-R or an AUDIO CD/RW.

1. Set the unit to "Dual" mode. As described above, you will see "1" and "2" with small circles in the lower right portion of the display.

2. Make sure the "Source" mode is set to "Analog" by repeatedly pressing the SOURCE button until it shows "Analog".
3. When copying from the PLAYBACK CD tray you will not use the RECORD button by the CD Burner tray. You will use the 'DUB" button just to the right of the display.

4. Put an audio CD in the PLAYBACK CD tray and press the skip track button ">>" until you arrive at the track you wish to record from. If the track you want to start at is track 1, then you don't need to skip tracks.

5. When positioned at the correct playback track, press the DUB button. The unit will show "CDR" and then "DUB" on the display. When it says "DUB" press the CONFIRM button. The unit will start recording. You can adjust the record level during the first few seconds to make sure you don't have the recording volume level set too high.

6. When the track is finished, you should see the unit indicate on the display "Update". This indicates it is closing the track and it should do this automatically. If it does not do this you may have to press STOP near the RECORDER Tray to force closing of the track. Usually the unit indicates "AUTO" in the display area and I believe that is what controls the automatic track numbering feature. I am not sure how the AUTO feature is turned on. I noticed on the CDR-200 it is on by default.

7. After the UPDATE is complete, the unit will display the number of tracks it has written to the CD-R. You can at this point change the PLAYBACK CD to another one or advance to another track for continued recording. When at the correct track simply go back to step 5 and continue.

8. When you are all done copying tracks from one or more CDs, and you wish to finalize the CD press FINALIZE and then press CONFIRM to start the finalize process. I noticed on the CDR-200 if you wait too long after recording a track the unit may start the finalize process automatically. This happened after at least 5 minutes. It is best to try and stay with the copy process to monitor what is happening. The finalize can also start if you have written to many tracks to the CD-R and it runs out of space. Typically, your safe if you burn about 14 to 15 tracks to a CD-R at a time. You might be able to fit more if the tracks are very short (2-3 minutes each).

One last note about the connections on the back of the unit. Read the labels of the connections on the back very carefully. The CDR-200 and probably the 201 have separate outputs for the PLAYBACK CD (CD) and BURNER CD (CDR). You will want to connect these to seperate inputs on your audio amplifier. Or you might also wish to merge them using adapters into one input on your audio amplifier. If you keep them separate you will need to change sources on the audio amplifier to hear each tray. For example, you might need to switch to "CD/TAPE" for the CD, and "AUX" for the CDR. It is probably easier to merge the two using audio adapters which can be readily obtained from RadioShack.

I hope this helps!

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RECORD DROP OUT


Just bought this CDR 570 and not use yet.

Reading the instruction manual - yes, life experience has taught me some really useful stuff! -

Under 'Discs for recording' on page 7 it says at end of section

IMPORTANT:
To ensure proper working of the set we recommend the use of PHILIPS audio CDR and audio CDRW discs only'
Roughly translated I read this to me - 'don't blame us if the set don't work using other (non-compatible) discs' !!

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