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Anonymous Posted on May 01, 2010

With the door closed and the timer turned on the heater turns on but the motor does not run

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  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    No i have the drum removed so i have a clear view of the motor , and the motor is definetly not turning

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    my model is ned5200tqo, the heater is working well

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    I looked over the entire heating element and there is no wires or anything touching bare metal

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    Yes i have a ohm meter

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    ,With the two leads still attached i read resistance

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    If you mean check between the two posts on the motor where the two large red wires where connected ,i have a open circuit

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    I disconnected the two big red wires from the heater leaving the orange wire attached,and iget a closed circuit when i touch either side of the element to the case

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    So replacing the heat element should cure everything

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    Thank you alot the first expert i talked to was sold only on the idea that the timer was bad which just cost me 115.00 for nothing

  • Dan Webster
    Dan Webster May 11, 2010

    The heater should not work. The motor has to be running. Why? The centrifugal switch inside the motor has to move to the run position before the heater element is engaged. Could it be that the motor is running but the drum is not turning?

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You either have a short in the heat element or the centrifugal switch on the motor is bad. The most common thing is a short in the element. If you can send me the model number from inside the door area I can help you determine which it is. You would need a basic mechanical ability.

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  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    Can you take a good look at the heat element, it most likely has a part of the wire that is broken or something has fallen into it and is touching the case or ground.

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    The heater may be working well, but it may have a short in it causing it to heat when it is not suppose to. If it does you will be able to see the heat wire touching ground or the case

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    The heater is behind the dryer, remove the back panel and it is on the right rear corner, it has two screws on either side you can leave the wires on it while taking it off to inspect. Be SURE THE DRYER IS UNPLUGGED

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    Do you have an ohmmeter?



  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    If you do, there will be 2 larger red wires on the motor. With the dryer unplugged you should read infinite resistance (no reading). If you read 0 ohms the centrifugal switch in the motor is bad







  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    wiring/Wiring%20Sheet%20-%208576793.pdf

    Here is the wiring diagram


  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    That is not good, if you take the wire harness off the motor and read where the red wires were connected what do you get?

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    Ok, yes that is what I meant. Those should have been 1 and 2. That is good.


  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    Humm, since your ohmmeter is handy humor me and disconnect the wires to the heat element, check from terminal to ground (case), that should read infinity (no reading)

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    If you get a closed circuit the element is shorted



  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    That means the element is touching the case somewhere or something has fallen in the element compartment and shorting it to ground

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    yes it sure will, you should be able to see where the short is if you take the element out. It only has the 2 screws



  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    The part number for that element is 279838 and is made by Whirlpool

  • Anonymous May 01, 2010

    Ouch, sorry to hear that. Glad we got to the root of the problem

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