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Tillers rotate put in gear wont move was moving just stopped is their a belt or chain in gear box or transmisson

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Hi pat,

Yes, there are two chains in the tranny. If the wheels spin freely but don't engage, the smaller chain is broken.

If the wheels don't move, in gear or not, the smaller chain is broken and wrapped around the gears.

It's a bit of a chore to get to....

Mike

Posted on May 15, 2011

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