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LG Washer trips dedicated breaker

My LG front loading Washer (18 months old, LG WM2016C) just started tripping the dedicated GFI breaker at the end of every cycle. Do I need an electrician (house is also 18 mos old) or a washer repair person? Any thoughts on cause or why now? Has anyone else had this problem and had it fixed out of warranty?

  • Janine Slidel
    Janine Slidel Sep 28, 2015

    To the poster - did you ever resolve this issue? My LG washer is doing the exact same thing and I don't know who to call first.

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That to me seems like an electrical problem. Every now and again you can get a bad GFCI receptacle that will constantly keep tripping. I would also see that the GFCI is properly sized for the circuit. It needs to be a 20 AMP circuit (just dedicated to the washer) and a 20AMP GFCI receptacle. The way to tell is the 1 of the three prongs of the 20AMP GFCI will be in the shape of a "T" while a 15 AMP will have 2 straight prongs and the ground prong. Hope this ws helpful, don't go spilling any money into your washer without getting that fixed first, because it doesn't seem like a washer problem.

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