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How much to buy and get it installed with tax and labor ?

Just want to know to be ready and if i canafford it.

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If it's a valve issue, why's my plumber telling me the tanks gone?


""hey Im a plumber and every tank I sell now includes the temp regulator and at 5 hours to install so why not suggest a new unit, after all a simple valve replacement and 1 hour labor doesn't amount to a decent income""
I'm not a plumber but if you are not aware of what is going on and don't get a second opinion and quote , the plumber walks away a little richer
I have explained the reasoning and hopefully given you something to think about so that if replacement unit is necessary you will know that you have not been ripped of .

May 13, 2016 | Water Heaters

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Oil furnace only produces cool water intermittedly and only when heat is actively on


For clarity, a Furnace produces HOT AIR for heat while a boiler produces HOT WATER for heat. Just remember...boil = water. You said your "furnace" does not produce hot water for a shower and because furnaces do not product hot water unless they have some model that do???? Usually people with a furnace have a seperate hot water heater. People with boilers though can produce hot water for use as both their sinks/showers hot water and their heat (by heating water that goes through baseboards) in their house. I don't believe any furnaces produce hot water most of the time a furnace just produces hot air for heating. So figure out what you first have.
Having said that, I'll assume you have a boiler like I do and my Weil McClean(sp?) stopped working a while back and wasn't turning on to "boil" any water. I took apart the burner and there is a light sensing photo resistor as part of the controls. If this phto resistor goes bad, the boiler will not start. The resister is cheap, I think it was $8 but you have to know what you're doing to change it. So you may be better to call someone who can work on such equipment.
Boiler's themselves are not overly complex. Home heating oil is the same diesel fuel that you can buy in a gas station only the government has "oil" companies put a RED die in home heating fuel which is usually cheaper then Diesel fuel because diesel fuel is taxed to death. The reason they do that is so that if you try putting RED tinted home heating fuel in your truck and you get pulled over (because you're a trucker with and 18 wheeler and they typically do inspections of these trucks) you will be a huge fine if they see you're running home heating fuel and NOT paying your taxed by purchasing Diesel fuel. A little bit of background so you know the fuel you are dealing with here. So it's dieslel fuel without the tax you run in your boiler. Gasoline on the other hand is VERY explosive as you know, but diesel fuel (if you're ever tried to light it) takes some coaxing to get lit. When it's cold out, diesel fuel is very hard to light and that's why trucks use glow plugs. You don't need those in your home though.
But because diesel fuel/home heating oil is hard to light, it's sprayed as a msit into your boiler, so that it can light more easily.
But because it is a fuel, you should know what you're doing when messing with it. FInd out what you have, and then have someone work on the issue if you haven't already. I'm guessing you have had it fixed by now?

Mar 21, 2014 | Water Heaters

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14 month old water heater stopped working


Which water heater do you have??? What is year of manufacture?
Rheem-GE Geo spring hybrid: Rheem-GE heat pump ?? then call GE 888-443-4394 for recommendation of local service technician and expect to pay $400 and do not expect problem to get solved unless area has experienced, certified water-heater-air-conditioning expert.
Installation must be done correctly. For example if water heater is set too close to wall, then service technician will expect you to hire plumber to empty tank and move away from wall and install correctly before repair can resume. It's a nuisance, but this is accurate information based on others who have posted questions.
Copy following link for resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Review-GE-Heat-Pump-water-heater.html#maintenance
http://waterheatertimer.org/GE-heat-pump-manuals-by-date.html
There are no service manuals available for homeowner, which is why this product is unwise choice for any installation.
Unit is not protected from power surge. Install one-time-use whole house power surge.
Make sure unit is connected to 240V, and that breaker is not tripped off on one leg. Move wires to another same size breaker. Check wire connections at water heater and confirm 240V.
Check that installation is done correctly as shown on link above.
14 months old means that labor warranty has expired by 2 months. However parts are still covered.
Do not buy expensive water heaters that cannot be repaired easily by homeowner. This single repair can eliminate all anticipated savings from buying product.
If expected heat-pump repair will cost $400, then buy off-the-shelf electric water heater from Lowes for $250 and save the expensive repair.
Gene

Jul 25, 2013 | GeoSpring Hybrid Water Heater

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Any brand of water heater better than the others? Currently have a Rheem gas 50 gallon


Short answer:
6-year Whirlpool from Lowes, 6-year Kenmore from Sears
Both are same brand. Offer 10% less than price, get store coupons.

Reasoning:
#1 Warranty.
Warranties are same across all brands. First year parts-tank-labor are covered, and afterwards parts-tank are covered for original homeowner and non-commercial installation when installed by instructions shown in manual.
The math shows: shorter warranty has greater percentage of full coverage.
6 year 9 year 12 year?
Only difference is anode rod diameter, or longer-warranty tank may have 2 anode rods.
You can convert 6 year tank into 12 year or 15 year by inspecting anode each 1-3 years, and maintaining tank as shown in product manual.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Replace-anode-rod.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html

# 2 Don't buy tankless.
Don't buy gas or electric hybrid.
These do not save money overall, and do not last longer than ordinary tank heaters, and they are expensive to buy and maintain and repair.

# 3 Ordinary Whirlpool gas water heater from Lowes is inexpensive and can be maintained and repaired by homeowner.
Air intake is located on bottom and can be cleaned easily.
Set 3-legged water heater on bricks so air intake can be inspected and cleaned easily.
Whirlpool is made by AO Smith parent company. Other brands made by AOS are Reliance, State, American, Craftmaster, and Kenmore.
Service manuals are posted online, parts are designed for quick, ez replacement.
Installation manual shows how to perform maintenance.

# 4 Avoid Rheem.
Rheem makes Reliant, Richmond, Ruud, and GE
Air intake can only be cleaned by removing combustion parts. Combustion parts are held in place with tamper-proof screws.
Service manuals are not available online.
Installation manual does NOT show how to perform maintenance, and says that customer must call for service.
Rheem does not offer better product that somehow needs specialized treatment, they just want customers to buy service from brand-loyal plumbers.

# 5 Bradford White makes good heater.
Usually these are more expensive and not available except thu dealers who might require pro installation for warranty coverage ... maybe.
Are BW made better? Warranty is identical to other brands.
Must remove combustion parts to clean air intake.
Parts are ez to replace, but they might not sell parts direct to homeowner.
Service manuals are available.

# 6 Insulation thickness.
Does not make much difference with current price of gas.
If you pay $400 more for a tank with 2" insulation instead of typical 1-1/2", then payback can be 15 years or more.

Oct 24, 2012 | Water Heaters

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Getting a 76 flashing on my Paloma PTG-74XP tankless water heater


Error code 76
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Rheem-error-code-C7-76.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Rheem-Tankless-Fault-codes.pdf

Open following link for Rheem/Paloma/Richmond/Ruud tankless troubleshoot resources including error codes, self help, manuals, parts links, tips, and contact information.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Troubleshoot-Rheem-Tankless-water-heater.html

Read manual cover to cover, make sure tankless receives yearly maintenance as outline in manual.

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Mar 30, 2011 | Rheem Paloma PTG-74XP / RTG-74XP Liquid...

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Does the Rheem FURY Model 22V50F1 qualify for the energy tax credit?


1) Open following link to identify product.
http://www.rheem.com/product.aspx?id=CC643E03-4C15-4775-B139-E504A95651F7

2) Click information tab to see EF energy factor
Click specs and documents tab to download on-line manual.
Click Federal tax credit to read information

3) Tax info says: $300 for gas water heater with EF >= 0.82
EF energy factor for 22V50F1 is .58, so the answer is NO tax credit

4) Open following link to maintain efficiency of your gas water heater:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Clean-sediment-out-of-water-heater.html

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I have a G6A7 heater and the alluminium tank has split due to water freezing, can i get just the alluminium tank? Helen


Yes, you can buy just a replacement tank. Any RV dealer/parts should be able to give you a price, or even check campersworld site. Please keep in mind that it is a fair bit of labor involved in changing just the tank because you have to remove all the parts from old one, and re-install them on new one. If your water heater is getting on in years, it sometimes pays to replace complete unit with new gas valve, pressure relief, burner etc., already installed, and warranty comes with it. I've seen older ones get replaced and then gas valve goes next, etc etc, and it ends up costing more in the end. I'm not trying to sell you on this idea, just advising from experience.

Jan 14, 2011 | RTO Atwood Water Heater - 6 Gal LP

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Have a rheem gas water heater for manufactured homes...model 211R40DV....all of a sudden the pilot goes out occasional and the water is very hot, even on low setting...a repair man told me only place to...


First off, the repair man is right that it is the thermostat.I'm guessing his quote was the cost of part and labor to install it. You can buy a new one for around $300. to $350. ish.
Hope this helps.

Aug 14, 2009 | Rheem Water Heaters

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I have an old rheemglas fury 22v40 that's leaking from the bottom. What could be the cause? Also, it DOES need replacing, Who does installs at no cost at the time of purchase?


my top element to the hot water heater is working but my bottom element isnt there both brand new elements and im just not getting power to the bottom element but i have power to the top element is it possible that the top heats first and the bottom heats later running out of options!!!

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