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I have a mod KDSU01DJ that will not drain. I've had it all apart, there are no clogs, nothing stuck. I bench tested the motor and the pump, both run ok. It seems like the pump isn't pushing hard enough. Should the motor be running with the pump during the drain cycle. I"m stumped. Thanks.

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  • rpeter311 Apr 27, 2010

    OOPS, dyslexia strikes again. Anyway, the drain pump motor (part # AP3133590) does run, should the main motor (part # AP3179651) also be running during the drain cycle or just the pump motor? If it's just the pump motor that runs I think mine must be going bad. Thanks for the help and the quick response.

  • rpeter311 May 05, 2010

    Epilog:I replaced the pump, put it all back together, hit the drain button and still the water just sat there. As it turns out there is a LITTLE check valve in the elbow of the drain hose where it attaches to the drain pump. That hose is smi-transparent and I could see some water moving around in there so I never thought to check that part of the hose. I had taken it apart where it attaches to the extention hose to the sink and found that part was clear too so I ASSumed the hoses were okay. After I took the hose off the dishwasher and tried to blow through it (and couldn't) I saw, embosed on the elbow, DO NOT REMOVE, CHECK VALVE INSIDE

  • rpeter311 May 05, 2010

    (I wasn't through, hit the wrong button) anyway..I cleared whatever was blocking the check valve, put it all bact together, AGAIN, and now it works just great. I told all this to an appliance repair man I ran into and he thought I was nuts. He said there was a check valve in the sump but didn't know about the one in the hose. That made me feel better, I found something the expert didn't know about. I now know a whole lot more about dishwashers and my wife is happy. Life is good!
    Thanks for your help, it put me the right track. Rick

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Yes the drain pump motor must be running during the drain cycle.
This manual will help trace your problem.
4317196.pdf

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    steve Apr 27, 2010

    Sorry. The pdf link I posted is not working.
    Cut and paste this link for the manual.

    https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/Sr...$FILE/4317196.pdf


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    steve Apr 27, 2010

    BTW your model is KUDS not KDSU

  • steve
    steve Apr 28, 2010

    Only the drain motor runs during the drain cycle.

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