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Gas or electric water heater, which is cheaper utility bill?

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Hello,Mark The answer depends on where you live.Here in the northeast GAS hands down is cheapest and even that is still expensive!

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How to troubleshoot and maintain a gas or electric water heater


Water heater problems normally become self-evident: A hot water faucet fails to summon hot water, you see dripping or puddles near the water heater, or the tank emits strange gurgling or popping sounds.
Though many gas utility companies will make a free house call to solve problems with a gas water heater’s burner or the gas supply to the tank, it helps to know how to solve basic outages yourself. For more difficult issues, contact a qualified local hot water heater repair person.
Typical water heater problems include a leaking tank, not enough hot water, water that is too hot, water that is not hot enough, strange noises in the tank, and discolored water. Most water heater problems are easier to diagnose and relatively easy to handle if you understand how they work. For more about this, see How a Storage Water Heater Works. Note: Leaking natural gas can be dangerous. If you smell natural gas (it smells a bit like garlic) near the water heater, shut off the pilot light, close the gas shutoff valve, and call a plumber or your gas utility company for assistance. See our information on gas leaks.
How to Flush & Drain a Water Heater
Before draining and flushing your water heater, turn off the gas or electric power (depending on whether it is a gas or electric water heater) and let the water cool a little. Close the incoming water valve and attach a hose to the drain valve to run the water into a large bucket or to a drain or the outdoors. Open the drain valve and open one hot water faucet somewhere in the house to let in air. When all water has drained from the water heater, turn the cold water valve on and off until the water from the drain runs clear. Then close the drain valve and the hot water faucet, open the cold water valve, and turn the water back on.
Water heater tips
Set the temperature control to about 150 degrees F. or lower if you have no dishwasher or if you have small children or elderly people in the home who might scald themselves. To minimize the energy it takes to heat the water, insulate your water pipes if they run a long way from your heater to your faucets. Also consider installing a point-of-use water heater. Always shut off the power to an electric water heater before working on it. Periodically check the temperature-pressure relief valve, which keeps pressure in the boiler from building up too much. Lift or lower its lever on this valve. Water should drain from the overflow pipe. Do not work on an electric water heater if there is standing water pooled on the floor near the appliance. Shut off the circuit to the water heater and call a qualified water heater repairperson.

on Sep 03, 2010 | Heating & Cooling

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You would need to buy a propane hot water heater. Unfortunately you can not convert an electric hot water hearter to propane.

I didn't want to use either an electric or gas hot water heater so I invested in a solar hot water heater for my home. Best thing that I ever did as far as saving money. Once it is paid off then the benefits are lower utility bills.

Good luck,

Marty

Jul 15, 2014 | Water Heaters

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We have changed the element and is still not working.


What water heater do you have? Question posted under BW 120V 6 gallon electric.
Element is found on electric water heater.
Igniter is found on gas water heater.
So now it get's confusing what water heater you have.... for example some 6 gallon RV water heaters have both electric and gas. And troubleshoot for that is different than electric water heater.
Copy following link for electric water heater troubleshoot resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html
Does tank have 2 elements or 1? Which element did you change... why did you change element before replacing thermostat? What symptoms were you experiencing before changing element?
Is this a new heater? Was tank full of water before power turned ON?
Add a comment and describe problem in detail.
Gene

Jul 29, 2013 | Bradford White M16u6ss 6 Gallon 120v 1500w...

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I was wondering if this heater is costing a lot to run, it never shuts off! I was told I would be shocked to see how much electricity I am consuming.Thanks!


Yes, electric space heaters do use more electricity than most people would expect. And, since yours "never shuts off", your electric company is going to love you. Part of your problem may be, that the heater output is not great enough to heat the area to a temperature that would automatically turn the heater off. So. therefor it runs continually, until you turn it off. Is replacing the existing heater with one that has a greater output the answer? Maybe, but it would use more electricity to maintain a higher output. Hopefully, it would heat the area quickly and turn off quickly, saving you a minimal amount on your electric bill.

For the most part, as far as efficiency is concerned, you can't beat a vent-free gas heater, fireplace or gas logs. They're 99.9% efficient and will even work if the electricity goes off. They come in Natural Gas and Propane (LPG) models and can go just about anywhere in your home, when sized properly. Most have a built-in thermostat to maintain your comfort level. And, unlike and electric heater, the heat is warm and moist ... you feel it quicker and it's more comfortable.

Hope this gave you some insight into portable electric heaters.

Feb 27, 2011 | Black & Decker 200UH Utility Heater

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Rheem water heater model #82V661 serial # RH0106D11663 leaking water at lower panel. Water is coming from above wiring and control panel. Is this fixable or need to be replaced? Mfg date is 01/2006


You have 240volt electric water heater
Check both elements for leaking.
Check top of tank for leaking pipes.

If water heater is leaking from side of tank, then tank is rusted out and could rupture.
This tank must be replaced.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-at-bottom-of-water-heater.html

My friend welded his tank to get more life out of tank, but he assumed the risk.

Hot water heaters are under pressure from heated water which expands.
If tank ruptures, water will flood out of tank and water will run until shut-off is turned OFF.
This causes major damage inside home.

Protect yourself first, and then let's talk more.
1) Turn off water at shut off located on cold water line above tank.
2) Turn off power to water heater:
Gas heater, rotate valve to 'pilot' so pilot is lit but burner does not turn ON.
Electric heater, turn off circuit breaker.
3) Open tub spout on hot side and let run a bit to relieve pressure.
4) Now your property is safe.

You can limp along with failed heater if leak is slow.
Turn heater ON when you need hot water.
Typical Gas heater makes 41 gallons hot water per hour.
Typical Electric heater makes 21 gallons hot water.
Shower uses 5-9 gallons hot water, bath uses 12-14 gallons hot water.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Water-heater-reference-guide-2.jpg

If you are going to install heater yourself:
Look at label on side of old tank to identify size and particulars.
I buy ordinary heaters from Lowes and Home Depot and always buy scratch-n-dent models when possible, because superficial damage to outer tank does not lower lifespan of heaters I have installed.
Buy same size heater if it worked fine before.
Buy new flexible water connectors.
Set water heater in drip pan.
Offer 10% less than price shown. Make them deal with you. Shop Ace hardware, Lowes, Home Depot. Kick the tires since you have a bit of time.

I know you have electric heater, but many folks read these answers, so I include info on gas too.
#1 rule) tankless heaters are a rich-man's toy, because tankless will never pay you back, and will become major money pit if you encounter 1 repair. Electric tankless heaters require larger electric service box. Gas tankless require larger gas line (larger gas line, more gas consumption, bigger bill unless you cut consumption)
2) How to install gas heater:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-gas-water-heater.html
3) How to install electric heater:
Read link above because many of same steps apply to electric.
The difference with electric, is turn off power, disconnect wires, and reconnect wires exactly like before. Set electric heater directly on insulated surface like dense blue styrafoam. Cut styrafoam in circle so it fits inside dip pan. Wrap entire electric heater with insulation blanket, except don't cover TP valve.
4) Connect bare copper jumper wire between hot and cold pipes to prevent stray current corrosion which will shorten life of tank. Make sure cold water line is grounded.

Also read:
http://waterheatertimer.org/9-ways-to-save-with-water-heater.html

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Jan 07, 2011 | Rheem Water Heaters

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I have this timer hooked up onto my water heater in the garage . I have instant hot water at all times . My gas bill is 5 times higher than my neighbors . Is this what is causing it ? If I unplug it where...


I think you have a grundfos recirculation pump.
This is not a water heater timer.
For illustration of grundfos system, open link below.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-recirculation-system.html
Recirculation system is electric, but it also causes gas water heater to run more.
Unplug grundfos for a couple months to see if gas bill goes down. Your system will revert to regular water heater.

Many things can cause high gas bill. Make inventory of gas-consuming appliances: dryer, oven, stove, heater, water heater. Then inventory how often these appliances are used. Each appliance has a label with BTU listed. Add up BTUs of all appliances and compare with BTUs shown on gas bill. Call gas company about how to cut back.
Gas water heaters can become inefficient. So can any gas appliance. Look at flame inside water heater when it turns on. If flame is yellow instead of clear blue, that indicates the water heater is inefficient, and burner needs to be cleaned, or heater needs replacement or maintenance.
Call plumber for assessment and then post a question on the Tank to double check anything plumber says:
http://www.thetankatwaterheaterrescue.com/forums/forum3/

More information about circulation system:
Notice that illustrations show a pump located under the sink.
It sounds like you have same pump located at water heater.
Both types are same thing.
The purpose is to circulate hot water to your faucet so you don't have to wait for hot water when turning faucet ON. Instead, you have to wait for cold water.

The timer located on grundfos dial determines when pump turns ON.
Link above has illustration showing how to set timer pins using your thumb or ink pin or nail file (women know nail files, so I'm relating here).
To set timer, rotate dial until current time lines up with mark. The dial rotates as time passes and has to be reset after power outage.
If dial does not rotate, then timer is broken, but it sounds like pump is still working, and running full time which is wasteful.
Next, move the pins to set on-off times. Move pins inward, the pump is ON. Pins outward, pump is off.
For more exciting reading about the grundfos:
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Grundfos-L-UP-TL-043-install-photos.pdf

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We have a 83 Gal. Rheem 41V50 40,000 Btu - What do we replace it with? It is leaking


The model number you gave is for a 50 gallon tank, not 83 gallon.

50 gallon ones are readily available, including the same model..

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Heating element cycling on and off fairly often


Yes, unfortunelty elextric water heaters do cycle a lot. They are a little bit different from gas water heaters, in the fact that they run differently and seem to run out of hot water faster, then gas water heaters. Just make sure, that the thermostat is set at 120 F. The thermostat will be behind a panel, and under the electrical wire connections. You will have to use a flathead screw driver, to change the temp. settings, if they need changing. Also, make sure that once a year, that you flip the Pressure relief valve to equalize the pressure and to drain at least 2 gallons of water out of the tank.

Jan 20, 2009 | Rheem 80 GAL ELEC TALL Water Heater 6YR SC...

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Water heater problem (no leak on floor)


It sounds like you might have scale buildup on the elements. If its a dual element unit it will ground it self out and it sounds like its boiling. constance usage of electricity, but no water usage. Drain it, and pull the element and replace the element.

Jan 17, 2009 | Water Heaters

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