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How do i hook up my new behringer pmp 5000 mixer to my fast track pro audio interface for home recording? I also want to be able to use 2 passive loud speakers. Any help most appreciated. Yep, im a newbie.

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  • gregg bailey Apr 24, 2010

    Thanks for your reply, looks like i screwed up big time. The speakers that i purchased may not work based on your info. I was told these would work on any application when i bought them. This is what i have.

    Model - SA-10M.2 (Set of 2)
    2-way 10" pro audio speaker with 40 oz magnet and 2? voice coil
    100 watts rms and 200 watts peak
    4x8 piezo horn tweeter
    two 1/4" inputs
    Frequency Response: 40 to 20,000 hz
    Wired at 8 ohms
    102 db
    Dual ports

    Is there any way possible to use them without causing damage? Thank you very much.

  • gregg bailey Apr 24, 2010

    Thanks so much fredy2. By the way, the speakers in question are the Seismic Audio SA-10M.2. Looks like i will have to sell them as im afraid to take a chance on using them with the PMP 5000. What would you recommend i replace them with?

  • gregg bailey Apr 25, 2010

    Well fredy2 this is all i could afford at the time. Do you think these will be ok?

    Peavey breaks the price barrier with the PV115 2-Way 15" Speaker Cabinet, a road-rugged cab loaded with a 15" woofer and sweet-sounding horn. With 400W program and 800W peak handling, 56Hz-20kHz frequency response, and 96dB (2.83V) sensitivity, it's the right enclosure for cash-strapped musicians who need night-in and night-out reliable performance.

    I got a pair. Theyre not PR15, dont know what the difference is.

  • gregg bailey Apr 26, 2010

    Thanks again, yes i will be holding on to the seismics. I apploligize for my newbie ignorance but i do learn from my mistakes. (proving costly though)lol.

    Could you please outline in detail how to connect the seismics in paralell with the 115's? to assure i dont make a costly mistake? MUCH OBLIGED.

  • gregg bailey Apr 26, 2010

    got it my friend, THANKS is an understatement!

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Passive loudspeakers are connected to the two "Speakon" connectors on the back of the unit. BUY GOOD cables for your speakers!!!! Whatever you do don't have a speaker line come loose while driving audio out !!! You will arc- out the rear-most power amp... I know, I repaired two of these now with the problem.

Connect the recording device to either the "tape OUT" RCA jacks or either of the pairs of MAIN out TRS jacks.

Set the slide switch for the MAIN L/MAIN R (upper position) leave this in this position unless you understand what the other positions are for to avoid damage. You will NOT need the other positions.

Further: Power ALL interconnect devices from the SAME receptacle source to avoid ground loops and possible damage.

YOUR passive speakers should be rated at least 300 Watts RMS continuos power handling or 600 Watts peaks.

Drive consumer stereo speakers with this and you will smoke the speakers and MAYBE blow the amp. This is a powerful amplifier and if you don't have at least 15 inch speakers you MUST really hold down the volume lest you blow the speakers.

Above all read the manual... yes, it is a bit hard to understand...

If you have a problem you can contact me by email for a bit of help. I have wo of these I have been using at venues now.

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  • Fred Yearian Apr 24, 2010

    Yes, you can use those speakers BUT you must keep the volume WAY down... one blast and the cones would probably be damaged. Worse if the speakers fail they can pop the amplifier. I have run a pair of Yamaha 10 inch two way similar to the BR10's but I am an electrical engineer and am very careful to not exceed safe levels and to avoid loud pops from cables being unplugged... The sound level from this was adequate for a 30 foot by 60 foot dance floor using a synth and music for ballroom dance. (not a club type with loud hip-hop). If you have others cranking the volume up when you aren't watching or demanding you do you MAY have an accident with small speakers.



    You did not say what brand the speakers are and googling the model brought up a Sony home surround system which can't be right..



    The magnet size is not a measure of the power handling capability of the speakers. Consumer speakers such as Sony, Panasonic, etc for home entertainment systems just won't hold up and the specs on those are usually complete lies.



    Frankly, if you could get bigger speakers I sure would... at least 12 inch in decent sized cabinets and keep others from messing with the volume controls. If the sound starts to distort any, you are overdriving the speakers. Salesmen will tell you anything to make a sale. If you can stay with a name brand I would do so... I have got a lot of good deals from MusiciansFriend.com. I often get busted used equipment and repair it for my use... but I have the skills and equipment to do so...Sometimes you can get reasonable deals at pawn shops for professional stuff like Peavey, JBL, Yamaha, etc.

  • Fred Yearian Apr 24, 2010

    I use Seismic Audio stage snake cables. They are low end cables which are fine BUT speakers, I would be afraid of... HOWEVER not knowing how much you paid, CONSIDER using them in parallel with other speakers. You can do this just don't go lower than 4 ohms (two 8 ohm sets in parallel). Sometimes what money you can get for speakers isn't worth selling them IF you can get some use.



    I ran a pair of the Yamaha's in parallel with a pair of Peavey 15 inch ones. When you have parallel speakers to split the power a bit it is much safer than to just have those 10 inch ones.



    I don't know what your use is of the system... you have a lot of power in the PMP5000... the unit is ALSO very versatile once you find your way around it... You can also consider driving those 19 inch with a small amplifier from either the main outputs or the monitor outs and use the powered main oputs to drive larger speakers...



    I would suggest a pair of 15 inch speakers with at least 300 Watts RMS capability. I got a Peavey 15 inch that was busted case from Musicians Friend for not much The case was probably damaged by a fall from a truck and that model is pretty stout... Peavey and Yamaha or decent brands... STAY AWAY from the Gemine dual 15 stack, while they are very inexpensive, the cabinet is thin particle board and gets broken easily... I just refurbed a pair of those which took a lot of work... B52 stuff is heavy and probably not for you...Kustom stuff is really low end, but IF they are rated 300 RMS continuous, and most are NOT, they would probably be OK.



    Consider the Behringer B212XL which are 12 inch but rated 800 peak... they are about $300 a pair from MF.



    Also consider the Peavey PR15 which is rated 400 Watts. They are about $200 each speaker...



    This is a matter of budget... If you can afford the PR15's I would go that way as they seem to be cost effective and the one I got sounds pretty good...



    STAY AWAY from "Phonic"

  • Fred Yearian Apr 26, 2010

    The cabinets of the PV115 will not be very rugged, but as long as you treat them well you should get good service from them and they will be safe. If you can afford to keep the Siesmics you can run them in parallel as a stack for fuller sound...



    Now in handling those PV115... the cases are going to be particle board and subject to damage if you bang them around...



    I would recommend you invest in two of the little 12 by 18 inch furniture dollies, total cost $30, from Harbor Freight and set the units on those to roll them around. You could even fasten them onto the cabinets if you desired.



    The PV115 cabinets appear to be about the same as the Gemini 3250's that I just repaired. The front particle board had disintegrated in those... got them for a song and rebuilt them... a lot of work though... The experience on those told be they are cutting corners on cabinetry... so the word is to roll the cabinets with the least bouncing. Peavey is a good brand and the speakers within the cabinets will PROBABLY be nearly the same as the PR15's.



    Now the most important thing to remember is to NEVER let those speaker cables come loose while driving audio. Use speakons at the speaker end if the cabinet comes with that, else LOOP the cable through a handle to lessen the possibility of somepne tripping and pulling a cable out.

  • Fred Yearian Apr 26, 2010

    The Peaveys have two connections on the back. You connect from the Behringer with a Speakon to one of the 1/4 inch speaker connectors on one of the Peavey's.



    Then you use a 1/4 inch to 1/4 inch SPEAKER cable (not an instrument or high impedance interconnect cable) between the second 1/4 inch on one of the Peavey's and one of the Seismics.



    USE A LONG 1/4 inch to 1/4 inch cable, say 50 feet or more, even though the connected speakers pair are in close proximity.



    The added resistance of the long cable will reduce the energy to the Seismics and keep them safe.

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