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Yamaha Natural Sound Amp and Tape Player

I want to play my Yamaha NS K-15 tape player directly into the A-05 integrated amp but when tape monitor is selected on the front of the amp I get nothing. When I had it set up with the graphic equaliser, pressing tape monitor on the amp and on the equaliser gave me play back from the tape player.
If I plug the tape player into the phono input of the amp and select 'phono' all I get is a loud hum through the speakers.
How do I set it up to play directly from the tape player without having the equaliser included?

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All of this applies to nearly any analog consumer audio gear...

If you have any Tape Deck and an Equalizer and only the one Tape Monitor loop you should place the EQ into that Tape Monitor loop, then place the Tape Deck onto one of the probable two Tape Monitors on the EQ as it sounds like you had here...

"When I had it set up with the graphic equaliser,pressing tape monitor on the amp and on the equaliser gave me play backfrom the tape player."
That setup will allow you to apply EQ to any analog source and the tape deck in record or playback mode.

However, if you want to remove the EQ and use the Tape Deck directly on the Tape Monitor just attach the deck's Playback cables to Tape Mon In (Play) and the deck's Record cables to the Tape Mon Out (Rec). Flip the Tape Mon control to hear the tape deck or monitor it while recording.

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NEVER plug anything but a turntable into the Phono. It has a preamp that expects a ver ysmall signal from the cartridge AND it also has a severe RIAA Equalization curve which would result in grossly exaggerated frequency extremes if you managedto get a non-LP source into it. Likewise, turntables without internal electronics mut always use the Phono section of a receiver, preamp or integrated amp to get the boost and EQ they need.

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