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How do I remove the cerculation pump on an asko asko Dishwasher D 1716

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  • behrenbruch Apr 23, 2010

    When I bench test the circulation pump On my asko D1716 dishwasher it seems to work good but when I put it back in and running and I open the door the spray arms are harddly turnning

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Hello, With the right technique it isn't too bad, but it does require removing it from the cabinet/cupboard. This is what I do. FIRST**Turn off the power at the main service panel or unplug the unit.** Shut off the water and undo the water supply and drain hose. Remove as much water from the sump well as possible because you'll need to lye the dishwasher on its front ( remove any dishes inside and also get some towels or a blanket to lay it on so you don't damage the front panel or control's ). Once you have the unit out and face down, you'll see the back of the circulation motor&pump assembly...this is where it gets a little tricky, but I've done plenty and will guide you through. The clamps holding the pump hoses in place are "one time" clamps so once removed they'll need to be replaced with narrow "worm gear" clamps when installing the new pump assy. Undo the wires at the side of the motor ( A good idea would be to take a picture or draw a diagram, the picture is likely better...in my case at least ). Hopefully from here you will get the new one in. Let me know how you make out, I'll watch your post. Good luck. Macmarkus :)

Posted on Apr 22, 2010

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  • Mark MacDonald
    Mark MacDonald Apr 23, 2010

    Hello again,

    I'm not surprised by that really. Often the motor will seem to work ok, but yet the wash impeller is spinning free within the housing and when the water is present cannot "pump" sufficiently. I find mostly the impeller is busted in fact, usually due to the ball bearings from the top rack falling out of the holders and into the pump housing. They are not serviceable sadly, you'll need to replace the entire motor&pump assembly, Asko part # 80-570-81 for your model 1716 and quite pricey at around $350USD.

    Let me know how it goes or if you need any more help.

    Good luck.

    Macmarkus :)

  • Mark MacDonald
    Mark MacDonald Apr 23, 2010

    Hello again,

    I'm not surprised by that really. Often the motor will seem to work ok, but yet the wash impeller is spinning free within the housing and when the water is present cannot "pump" sufficiently. I find mostly the impeller is busted in fact, usually due to the ball bearings from the top rack falling out of the holders and into the pump housing. They are not serviceable sadly, you'll need to replace the entire motor&pump assembly, Asko part # 80-570-81 for your model 1716 and quite pricey at around $350USD.

    Let me know how it goes or if you need any more help.

    Good luck.

    Macmarkus :)

  • Mark MacDonald
    Mark MacDonald Apr 23, 2010

    Sorry for the double post, I accidentally hit "submit" twice. Still getting used to this "iphone" touch screen thingy.

    Macmarkus :)

  • Mark MacDonald
    Mark MacDonald Apr 24, 2010

    Hi,

    Well if it where me and the other component's of your Asko are in good order I would repair it however, that's not what you asked so...recommending a new unit can be difficult. I'll start by saying my number one choice would be between Asko or Meile. The list of ones I would avoid like the plague is longer. Those are absolutely Samsung, LG, GE, Smeg, and Firigidaire/Electrolux. In fact the only machine with a familiar name in north america I will recommend is Whirlpool, which also manufactires Kitchen Aid, Maytag, Inglis, Estate, Roper and many Kenmore ( careful VSA use the Estate name as well and they are built in New Zealand & some Kenmore are built by Frigidaire/Electrolux ).

    Having said all that I will also add it really depends on what your needs are too. A growing family ? Single ? House of two adults ? A bunch of bachelors...hire a maid, ha ha ! I also suggest some kind of extended warranty no matter what you purchase, most units only come with 1yr. warranty and it is relatively inexpensive ( $50 - $ 100 a yr. depending on model & provider ) and many machines rely on electronic component's and use more & more plastic parts as is to be expected to keep the prices down.

    I don't know if this is of any help to you or not, but I just don't feel completely confident recommending anything nor do I believe any of the consumer report info...not since I was informed one of there bases for gathering the ratings.

    Hope it gets you started however. Good luck in whatever you decide.

    Macmarkus :)

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