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Crosley turntable problem

Tone arm will not swing back into off position and rest in the turntable arm holder. Will only go as far as the edge of the spinning platter. So, the only way the unit will shut off is turning it off at the phono switch on the front of the unit. I have applied some pressure to try force the arm into the rest, but it will not go and I do not want to push it so hard as to break the arm. Any ideas?

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  • dklobo117 Mar 30, 2008

    Thanks for all the help. When I took the unit apart and looked under it I found the linkage that connects the speed selection switch with the tone arm was not aligned properly. Once it was aligned properly, the unit worked just like new. Thanks again.

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  1. Check to see if at the base of the tone arm where it goes into the base of the unit the "cue" plastic riser is not out of position.
  2. Check to see if the "record size" is properly set, as this will prevent tone arm from returning properly set.

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Some internal component is obviously stuck or malfunctioning, You can open it up and check the movable components, if under warranty, I would call the company first. Otherwise if you are like me, you would open it up and start trying to figure out what isn't working, maybe a gear is having problems, I'm sorry but without looking at it myself I don't know for sure since the arm does move, which means the motor can't be bad, maybe the alignment is off for the gears. My advice is call Crosley first and see if this is a known problem to occur and check about the warranty.

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    Benjamin Patri Mar 25, 2008

    have you gotten it to work, or have you contacted the manufacturer yet? Let us know, we are here to help!

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    Benjamin Patri Mar 30, 2008

    Please don't forget to rate this solution

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    Benjamin Patri Mar 30, 2008

    glad you fixed it, have a good day and have fun using it

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HAVE YOU CHECK FOR ANY SPRING ATTACHED, THAT COULD BE LOOSE.??

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Hi Vat,
Although I live in Canada now, I was born in the former
Czecholsovakia. While I spent a year in the Czech Republic in
2006, I was amazed how advanced their technology was, in
comparison to Canada or the US. If you want modern technology,
Prague is the place to go. Anyway ...

1) As I said before, do NOT adjust the tone-arm weight up
and down. This setting must be set to match the stylus and
the cartridge !!! The wrong setting is very bad.

To get the weight adjusted correctly, do the following.

a) Check the cartridge and stylus (needle) specifications, on
the WEB if necessary.

A typical tracking weight is between 0.9 grams to 1.5 grams,
but this very much depends on the needle geometry. To much
weight will damage the needle and the record, but

so will too little, because the needle will not stay on the
surface, skipping or mistracking on loud passages.

Note that the tracking acceleration is proportional to the
the square root of the loudness, multiplied by the frequency
squared. So if the tracking force is too low, the needle will
bounce over high frequencies and damage the record as
well as the needle's tip.

2) Once you know the correct force for your needle, adjust
the rear weight for ZERO force, such that the needle just
floats weightlessly in the air. If your turn-table has an anti-
skating adjustment, set that to zero as well.

3) At this point the tone-arm should be totally weightless,
and should neither touch the plater nor swing up/down
by itself. It should float halfway.

4) A this point, adjust the rear weight's dial (not the weight) to
read zero. Note that the dial will slide, while you hold the
weight still. You have now calibrated the tone-arm's zero
point.

5) Now, adjust the weight (with the dial) to read the desired
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6) Now adjust the anti-skating dial to the same number as
the rear weight. This setting compensates for the radial
(towards the center) component of the friction vector,
caused by the needle riding on the record groove, at some
specific (average) tone-arm angle.

7) Your tone arm is now balanced, and you should not
touch it after this, accept for minor adjustments.

For brand new records, you may lighten the tone-arm
by 10%. For old records, you can make it a little heavier.
Similarly, you can adjust the anti-skating to prevent a
record from skipping, but a bad record should be played
only once (and stored on your computer).

8) For some tone-arms and cartridges, the cartridge pitch
(up/down angle) is also adjustable. This requires a special
jig or gauge, supplied by the cartridge manufacturer.

The pitch can be adjusted either by the use of screws or
wedges, and by lowering / raising the rear gimble. On my
Technics SL 1200, the gimble elevation is adjustable with
a large ring, and my SURE V15 cartridge came with a guage
for adjusting it correctly.

9) It may also be possible to adjust the cartridge's yaw and
radius, but all of these adjustments should only be done
using the correct gauges and by strictly following the
cartridge installation manual.

10) NONE of these adjustments should effect the tone-arm
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clearence if the cueing mechanism is working properly,
except, perhaps, for the gimble elevation, if the cartridge
is unusually tall.

11) Is the cuing mechanism (i.e. the tone-arm lifter)
mechanical or hydraulic ?

Is it the lift consistent or does the tone-arm drop down
with time?

Does the tone-arm move parallel to the plater, or does the
stylus height change with tone-arm position (yaw)

You are looking for a mechanical defect in the cuing
mechanism.

12) How much over all lift do you get between the down position
and the up position? This should be at least 8 to 15mm

If the cuing mechanism is worn out, it may not move enough.

If it starts too low, it may move enough but not raise the
needle enough to clear the record.

If the cartridge is tracking too low, you may have to
remove some wedges or spacers between the cartridge
and the head, or lift the rear gimble if it is adjustable, or
get a different tone-arm head, that matches the cartridge
profile.

Finally as silly as this sounds, make sure that the
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plater is too high, for what ever reason, this would also
cause the needle to drag.

Also make sure that the rubber mat on the plater is the
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Martin


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At the hi-tech extreme, a microprocessor can control the
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It is fair to assume that the cuing lever is what lifts
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The stylus weigh setting is NOT an issue here, that
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Note that both too much and to little weight is BAD.
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Similarly, and incorrect tracking pitch or yaw will also
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Take the ****** apart from below, and see what gives.
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4) If it is electronic, you have a control/ timing problem,
which requires a service manual and a qualified electronic
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You should be able to check any sensors, switches
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5) If the cuing lift system is mechanical, check the levers
and cams:
What is driving it ?
Is it broken ?
Is worn out ?
Is it out of adjustment ?
Is it slipping ?
Is it stuck ?
Is one of the springs all stretched or missing ?

6) If the lift is hydraulic or pneumatic, check for leaks.

7) If the manual lift seems to work, but the automatic return
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why?
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Have fun.
Please rate my answers.

Martin.

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There is an adjustment on the tone arm that you use to set where the tone arm picks up at the end of the record. This adjustment is normaly at the back (pivot point) of the tone arm and will be on the side probably. By the way, the tone arm is the part that the stylus is mounted to that swings back and forth to reach all the surface of the record. Make your adjustment and then test and continue doing this until you get it just where you want it. It is a process of trial and error. Good luck.

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