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I can't find my Bernina Serger 800 dl manual - how do I thread for a 2 thread rolled hem, and do I need a upper looper cover and that the heck is that anyway?? Thanks

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From what I have read this manual is less than desirable. Neither is the one for the brand that I have.

You may have better guidance if you purchase and use Nancy Zieman's "Serge with Confidence". I have found it very helpful.

For the two thread rolled hem, the looper cover is used to "trick" the looper into "thinking" it is threaded.

On my serger (not a Bernina), this is referred to as a "subsidiary looper". It is a spring type mechanism that fits in a small hole at the top of the upper looper.

You use a rolled edge presser foot; right or left needle; stitch length @ normal or wider; stitch length @ 1mm for the left needle/0.5 for the right needle; differential feed @ normal; needle tension - tighten; lower looper tension - normal or looser; two thread looper cover - engaged.

Test and adjust the tension as needed before making the rolled hem on your garment.

I hope this helps.

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You can download a manual from the Bernina.com web site. Select Support, then Search Support Info for Bernina Models, then Bernina Overlocker. You will find the Upper Looper Converter information on page 26 of the manual. When using the Converter, you will thread the Lower Looper only and remove the thread that would be used in the Upper Looper.

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