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Spill switch for warehouse heater

I have a Dayton warehouse heater that had a bad spill switch. I replaced the switch and the heater ran fine. A week later the switch tripped. The owner and I believe that the unit may need an inducer fan on the exaust vent pipe. What do you think.

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Yeah...it may be needing some colling device...

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