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No water flow even though descaling

The machine won't pump put any water, either from the head or the steam nozzle, no water comes out into drip tray either. I have tried descaling but cannot get water through with this process either. It makes all the sounds it should do however.

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  • Anonymous Jun 16, 2008

    the orange light wont go off and the drip tray fills up with water

  • stugots Jun 16, 2008

    the orange light wont go off and the drip tray fills with water

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I KEEP having this problem... everything is in place, but no espresso. Nothing comes out the brew head. I have found multiple fixers for it. One: make sure you have water in the tank and that the tank is firmly pressed down (this was the most embarrassing of the mistakes I made), Two: try a slightly courser grind of espresso. On my Black & Decker burr mill, I have it on the 3 (of 12) to finest settings. Tamper only a little bit... not too hard. Three: when the flow is just not happening, try running some steam through the nozzle to see if you can get things moving along. Once I ran the steam through... it sputtered and coughed for a few seconds then steamed normally, then cooled it back down and the espresso came out fine. This was the most recent fix.

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This may sound like a silly solution, but this happens to me a lot too, and this is how I fix it.

Just check the water container. Lift it up, and put it back down. Then, make sure it is really locked in, so press it down some more.

I know this sounds ridiculous, but the same thing happens to me ALL the time.

Hope this helps.

Posted on Sep 14, 2008

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I started the descaling process as according to manual. I tried running water through every 6 hours or so, however it kept coming up dry. I left the water in for a total of 2 days before finally the water managed to come through.

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You can try this different approach: open up the back of the appliance, and blow hard into the rubber hose that comes out of the water reservoir and into the pump, _while_ the machine is on and in espresso mode. The machine starts coughing, then water flows. You might have to fill the pump hose with a little bit of water.

Posted on Feb 02, 2013

  • Ricardo Fabbri Feb 02, 2013

    dont forget to descale after you get the water through - the machine will likely clog again in a few days

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(Button 26 is the right-most one (2 intersecting
ovals.)
From the Manual:
Press the button (26) for at least 5 seconds to
select the descaling operating mode; the LED
emits a fixed light.
• Direct the steam nozzle (14) toward the drip
tray.
• Position a vessel of adequate capacity under
the steam nozzle and turn the hot water knob
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automatic descaling cycle with pauses preset
by the manufacturer and managed
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clockwise to OFF. In this case, also the warning
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