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8 GB RAM problems

I have K8T MS 9130 motherboard and have been operating with 4 GB of ram (4 X 1). The processors are 2 X 246 Opterons. I tried upgrading the RAM to 8 GB and the machine recognises the RAM but will not boot into windows. The Windows logo comes up for about 6 seconds, then blue screens and crashes. I have two drives, the first a SATA (raptor) drive and the second an IDE. It will also run with 2 of the 2 GB sticks but not all 4.Any clues???

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  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    Sorry I did not specify that I was running Windows XP 64

  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    Sorry I did not specify I was using XP 64

  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    Its been running 64 bit software since new and had ** problems so far. The application (FEA) is very CPU intensive and an additional 4 GB of RAM would really reduce the I/O and push the CPU's a bit harder.

  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    All memory is matched. I bought a total of 16 GB, 8 for one machine (which worked fine) and anther 8 for this one.

  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    The board has 4 slots operating in pairs.
    Currently I am operating with 2 X 2GB sticks. I have swapped these for the other 2 GB sticks and they work fine also.
    Should I try adding the 2 X 1 GB sticks (giving a total of 6 GB) first?
    I suspect the problem is related to the MB not handling the full 8 GB. When going into the BIOS it is all good and says the full 8 GB is there and OK. The probelm seems to arise when booting XP 64. Maybe there is a conflict with the SATA C: drive!!

  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    What is the allocation drill?? What level do you do that at? Not at BIOS I presume.

  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    Bailed out eh!!

  • thrifty2 Mar 10, 2008

    The link does not tell me how to turn on
    IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE

    Is this in the regedit?

  • thrifty2 Mar 11, 2008

    I am skeptical, but will start with a new HDD and see how it goes in a couple of days. I reckon the mother board is not up to it!!

  • thrifty2 Mar 13, 2008

    Would not install!! It just hung at the windows setup menu and would not progress. I think that there is a conflict. The RAM is 400 MHz FSB but I do not think the Opteron processor will support more than 4 GB of RAM at this speed. The MB BIOS will not allow me to derate the memory to a lower speed. It's either that or a clash with the SATA drive.
    This is not worth the grief!!

  • thrifty2 Mar 14, 2008

    The documentation was inconsistent. Some specs say 4GB and some 8GB. The manual shipped with the MB says 8!!
    When it booted to BIOS all the RAM was there.

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Yeppers..windows has a limit on how much ram you can load into it..you'll need to segment that ram, and allocate it through bios, to each uP so that each see not more than 5 gig....interesting huh?

Posted on Mar 10, 2008

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    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    ekse..good point..the on board devices also MUST be compliant with 64 bit standards, and there just aren't that many boards out there in 64 bit land, either..

    maybe you might consider the virtual memory watusi, eh?


  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    here's a nice treatment on that very same issue, for Vista, etc.

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    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    well..xp 64 is fine. are the chipsets compatible with 64 bit all the way down the line? sometimes parts of them are, like video chips

  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    from this description, the memory MUST be matched and of same type is that the case?

    click here for more on this board

  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    got it..so the h/w is good..then it's MSoft's stated inability to handle that much memory in allocation mode. There's not simple answer.

    here's a thought..can you step up the memory, in 1 gig steps, so that it will configure, like an upgrade approach?

  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    i suppose swapping out the memory from machine one to two has been done? i've seen more fickle situations in my over 30 years of working with MSoft

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    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    yes..try the smaller memory and see if the windows fires up..if it does, then you'll need to do the memory allocation drill, and hope(cross your fingers) that the extra 2 gig will work..


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    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    nope.not with 64k bits Msoft..for the advanced folk, there are special memory allocation applications, that are open source..looking on google will show you, or download.com

    I'm only giving this a 50/50 shot, and I'm quite surprised that the other machine is running

  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    here's a nice video that spells it all out..


  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    nope..still online here in hawaii...what's the new information>?

  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    right from MSoft help and support on win xp 64 memory allocation. as I mentioned, this is not for the faint of heart.


  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    I'd highly recommend that you have someone that has done this once or twice tune your machines..

    thanks for using fixya

  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 10, 2008

    I'm not that familiar with this aspect. I'd recommend you be really careful here..

  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 11, 2008

    hmmm..now, that would be interesting..the o/s is on the drive, granted, but the rest of the handling is on the board..flips a coin to see who gets the fixya and dinero on this one. I'm tapped out, amigo..


  • Patrick Michaels
    Patrick Michaels Mar 13, 2008

    yeppers..you got it..welcome to the illusory HIGH end of the MSoft kingdom, where Ram dies, and hard drives cry. You going to finish this one out. Seems that either of us deserve this to close, one way or another..

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Windows doesnt like hardware changes. and specially if your useing a 32bit windows it doesnt support more than 3.0-9GB of ram. you need 64bit windows to work on 4GB or more.

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  • Ekse Mar 10, 2008

    Windows doesnt like memory changes like that. Only option I see is reinstalling your windows, that would solve the problem.



    and do post us what the bluescreens say. the codes mainly.

  • Ekse Mar 10, 2008

    Note to everyone: The motherboard and cpu have to support 64bit, the os wouldnt install if it wasnt so.

  • Ekse Mar 10, 2008

    it really is that simple, just reinstall windows. I've had these problems for years. Oh get back to me if it doesnt work. Also a good idea might be to install it on a empty hard drive so you dont loose any of your data incase it doesnt work.

  • Ekse Mar 11, 2008

    Tell me how it goes after a fresh install.

  • Ekse Mar 13, 2008

    hey, your motherboard doesnt support more than 4gb of ram!



    http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spe...











    144-bit DDR at 200, 266, 333MHz, 400MHz.



    Supports DIMM sizes from 64MB (128Mb x 16 DRAMs) to 2GB on each DIMM slot.


    Supports 4 DDR DIMMs upto 4GB (Registered Memory only)


    Supports interleaving memory within DIMMs.


    ChipKill ECC allows continuous correction of 4-bit errors in a failed x 4 memory device.


    For Single AMD® Athlon-64 FX 51 series, it will support Registered Memory up to DDR 400


    For Single orDual AMD® Opteron Series, it will support Registered Memory up to DDR 333

  • Ekse Mar 14, 2008

    Try another operateing system. But everything still points to too much memory.

  • Ekse Mar 14, 2008
  • Ekse Mar 14, 2008

    "The motherboard has to support "memory remapping". On some boards, this feature can be switched on or off in the BIOS, but it can be hard to figure out where the feature can be found, and even what it is called. In some cases, it is activated together with some of the CPU features. If in doubt, your best bet is checking your motherboard's manual."

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