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CPU RATIO? CPU RATIO VALUE

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  • TECHMISTRE Mar 10, 2008

    does the cpu ratio value have anything to do with overclocking?

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 11, 2008

    how does the cpu ratio value affect overclocking in anyway?

    what happens if you set the value to minimum or maximum?

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 12, 2008

    how do i overclock my RAM?

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 13, 2008

    im running:

    WINDOWS XP PRO

    INTEL 1.8GHZ E2160 1MB

    ASUS P5G-MX 1066 FSB

    X2 1GB DDR2 667 RAM

    XFX 8600GTS 256MB DDR3

    430W THERMALTAKE UPS

    SAMSUNG DVD-R

    X3 FANS + JET STORM VGA COOLER



    my question is if this system is good enough

    for DX10???

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 14, 2008

    thanx... my only problem is that vista is a difficult operating system, but my mobo is vista compatible... i am having trouble understanding vista..

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 14, 2008

    i currently have x2 1gb kingmax ddr2 667mhz

    im getting x2 1gb Geil platnuim ddr2 800mhz

    i want to know if Geil ram is a wise choice?

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 14, 2008

    NO WONDER YOU ARE RANKED MASTER!!!

    I FEEL BETTER ALREADY & UNDERSTAND IT A WHOLE LOT

    BETTER THEN BEFORE, YOU MAKE ME PROUD OF MY RIG!!!!! THANX FOR THE SOLUTIONS ITS REALY HELPFULL!

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 15, 2008

    THE GAMES IM PLAYING ARE

    TITAN QUEST

    NFSMW 5.0

    QUAKE4



    AFTER DROPPING MY LATENCY, MY CAR CAN ACTUALY

    ROLL WHEN LOSIN CONTROL ON TOP SPEED WHEN I PLAY NFSMW, BEFORE IT WOULD JUST SLIDE BUT NEVER FLIP OVER, MY 3D VISUALS IN QUAKE ARE VERY NICE & I PLUCK THOSE ZOMBIES WITH EASE NOW, AS IF THERE IS OIL UNDER MY MOUSE!!! MY NEXT GOAL IS TO UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM IN OVERALL & HOW THE COMPONENTS WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACHOTHER,

    IM SURE WITH YOUR HELP IT WILL BE AS EASY WHISTLING DICKSY! THANX MAN!!!

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 15, 2008

    CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN ME A LITTLE MORE ABOUT

    DUAL CHANNEL & HOW IT WORKS... I HAD A P4 WITH 3.2GHZ CPU, X4 512MB RAM & 6200LE 512MB VGA, THEN I DIDNT REALY UNDERSTAND A THING UNTIL I TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO BUILD A RIG MYSELF WHICH IS THE RIG IM SO PROUD OF TODAY BECAUSE I DID ALOT OF RESEARCH ON MY OWN,DIDNT HAVE ANY1 TO GUIDE ME BUT I KNOW THERE IS STILL A WHOLE LOT MORE TO FIND OUT & IF THERE IS A FORMULA BEHIND COMPUTERS IM SURE I CAN WORK IT OUT!! BY THE WAY, WHEN THE BIOS POST IT SAYS (2048MB DUAL CHANNEL INTERLEAVE).

  • TECHMISTRE Mar 16, 2008

    THE CPU RATIO ISSUE, I FINALY FOUND THAT IT IS THE CLOCK MULTIPLIER, NOW MINE AS SET AT 9 MAX, AND THE MINIMUM IS 6, HOW I FOUND OUT WAS THAT IF SET IT TO 8 MY CPU SPEED WOULD BE 1.6GHZ BECAUSE 8 X 200=1600 AND 9 WOULD BE 1.8GHZ WICH IS MAX, I'VE TRIED 9.5 OR 10 BUT I CANT SAVE & EXIT... IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY I CAN INCREASE THE CLOCK SPEED BECAUSE I CANT ACCESS THE FSB ONLY THE MULTIPLIER BUT IT WONT STAY AT THE SETTING... CAN I HACK THE BIOS IF POSSIBLE???

  • TECHMISTRE Apr 16, 2008

    can i run ddr2 800mhz ram on a 1066mhz mobo (asus)?

  • Sergio Scalfaro
    Sergio Scalfaro May 11, 2010

    you need to overclock your cpu?
    Sergio

  • Sergio Scalfaro
    Sergio Scalfaro May 11, 2010

    For obtain can you use everest download from
    www.lavasys.com
    Sergio

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Of course is has to do, almost everything has to do with overclocking, but what is that you need to know really? ... and personally I strongly recommend NOT TO OVERCLOCK.

Posted on Mar 10, 2008

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  • Carpenocte Carpediem
    Carpenocte Carpediem Mar 11, 2008

    Ratio is the same to say ration of dependence, to achieve the an "ideal" number or performance, the CPU, Memory and busses speeds have to be closer, so a perfect combination would be 100 Mhz for CPUs FSB, 100 Mhz for RAM and VideoRAM, 100 Mhz for buses, etc... of course it is not a real example, there are very small chances that this happen, because each technology developes separately... some things are harder to improve than others, for example you have the capability to transfer data at 1000mbps over ethernet adapters and yet almost no one in the world of home users have a connection that supports that... and at the same time the hard disk has to be capable of writing data at that speed and the CD writer has to do the same... Well I think you got me. If you insist in overclocking then try for example 800 MHZ CPU at the highest ratio, 800 Mhz or faster RAM at lowest latence time Good chipsets like nForce (bests for gaming purposes) fastest video adapter 800 Mhz ideal, Dual Channel memory... SATA2 HD... DDR3 and Core Quad on an ASUS motherboard would be gorgeous... :)

  • Carpenocte Carpediem
    Carpenocte Carpediem Mar 12, 2008

    RAM can be "optimized" by taking down the CAS LATENCY parameter in the BIOS... it might make the system unstable. Remember also that not all BIOSes has that option available...



    there are some BIOS that let you take your ram to max and min frecuencies, for ex: from 200, which in DDR means 400 and to 400 which means 800. Even better if you work in Dual Channel...



    But besides that there is not much you can do with RAM... if you try, remember to test temperature after the firsts minutes of playing... and 2 or 3 hours later... just in case... you just need to place your finger on the RAM chips and you will find if they are too hot or not, ALWAYS with the power down.



    Be Careful

  • Carpenocte Carpediem
    Carpenocte Carpediem Mar 13, 2008

    Well you sure will have no problems with hardware... but the problem might be Windows XP, although the people of microsoft had to change their idea of making DX10 available only for Vista, because nVidia couldn`t come with good drivers for that Shitty OS... so apparently you could run DX10 without no problems. There is a version of Service Pack 3 that has some new features which I don`t recommend you if your system is running OK. Upgrade is just for failures, if you run OK it is better not to upgrade a thing. Today I was taking a sight on an ASUS motherboard BIOS and I remembered you while I was playing with those parameters RAM clock and Cas Latency... Your motherboard might have it, but its always better to let the motheroard decide what speed to set to memory, todays motherboards do this choices very well, and if you have kigston or another good memory like corssair for example, wont have any problems with that. Remember! install DX10 when you have a game that needs it! otherwise stay low and stable! you wont like to see as computer hangs or lags just when youre killing that damn elven wizard on L2...

  • Carpenocte Carpediem
    Carpenocte Carpediem Mar 14, 2008

    Yes I can imagine... but maybe I wasnt clear enough... FORGET ABOUT VISTA, at least for the nexts 1 or 2 years... when they finish "fixing" its erros. Just run with all you have now. XP is much better, vista has nothing really better to offer in the videogames field so dont worry and never go after new and ultimate things, that is just comercial junk. You better buy what you need to do what you wanto and nothing else. You will run DX10 on XP and just play along. Seeya

  • Carpenocte Carpediem
    Carpenocte Carpediem Mar 14, 2008

    hey thank you man! Im glad to help you!

    well RAM its always better when is a known trademark, when you chose between different good memories its not the trademark the most important thing but parameters like the power they need or support and the latency they support, remember that a low latency is better if you can reach it with ram and motherboard. Latency is like the time that memory takes to load and upload bits and the spaces between, like a heart that, when we run beats faster than when we are steady and calm... Just maje sure to read the labels on the memory, there you will find the data I told you about and just keep it dual channel. Remember also that dual channel only works with two dimms, if you have 4 slots and use them all, dual channel will not work, is has to be only 2 dimms exactly equal.

    When ram quantity grows thin the system usually begins to use the HD to write the exeedent data and there is when speed goes down... so just make sure not to run more programs than those you need at the same time to avoid this... specially if someday you get into vista.

    seeya

  • Carpenocte Carpediem
    Carpenocte Carpediem Mar 15, 2008

    well, dual channel was ment to avoid memory saturation by dividing the total bus capacity into two slots so when they work together under exact same circunstances (same memory type) you get to take the total power of RAMs.

    as the buses in the motherboard work at different speeds according to what they do, the challenge of all manufacturers is to build more accurate circuits that can reach good performance at a reasonable cost. Cuz if they would use gold to record the tracks on the boards it would be much better but unaffordable. (gold is greater conductor than cooper).

    That message you are getting is telling you that dual channel is working just "interleaved" which is not bad, you could try disabling this function if your bios allows you to and see if you note difference, which I doubt... (dual channel takes the two memories and "uses" them as if they were a single big block of memory, reducing access time and givin an overall speed boost. Many motherboards will only give you dual channel if you use only two slots with two equal dimms... others will give you dual channel even with 3 dims... but reality is that to make sure you are doing things at 100% you should use equal dimms and pair slots.

    There are 3 key points in basic computers systems, first is obviously CPU which actually has the higher speed and it is because is commands the other parts, after that is RAM and a coulpe steps behind are HD and other units. But motherboard has to ensure every part is well connected and fluently comunicated so is as important as CPU to have a good motherboard otherwise all your great cpu and rams will never work at 100%

    cpu has cache memory inside which is a very fast and expensive memory, thats why you have only 1mb or 2mb of cache per normal microprocessors. It would be perfect if cpu came with 1 or 2 gigabytes of cache... you wouldnt even need ram and all the system would just fly out of your house.

    Companies said that the would make a cpu that will come with the video adapter or video adapter instructions inside... so imagine that. In a few years you might never need ram nor HDs any more. In fact HD is very slow compared to ram and cpu thats like the biggest problem for videogames and heavy applications when you run without enough RAM. Thats why videogames are built to use so much RAM, because they need speed and the HD, which can give cheap memory space, is very slow to take the power of todays videogames software.

    You also have solid state memory today, HDs with 20, 40 GB and more which are very fast but very expensive also. And even if you get one, videogames will still using RAM at least for half a decade from now.

    as you know there are live OSs that loads in RAM and they work perfectly (if RAM is ok of course). They only slow down then they need to read data from de CD/DVD unit again. Optical drives are much slower than HD and thats why they are only used to load data to install or play simple things like movies or music.

    well... you can read a whole lot more getting into intel.com and amd.com... if I could learn stuff just by using stuff and thinkin a little you wouldn find problems doing the same thing, and you can always get back to me and ask... if I know you will know.

    seeya





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