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IDE Connector Does anybody know anything about this connector? I am looking for IDE cable and/or adapter. On Sep 17, 2007 PcExpert answered a question about this connector here and posted a picture of a diffrent motherboard (looks like Asus) with the same connector. Any idea what was the motherboard model?

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  • barmalej Mar 07, 2008

    HP Pavilion s7310n has very odd IDE Connector. I am looking for a cable and/or adapter. Follow this link to see the picture (bottom picture).

  • barmalej Mar 07, 2008


    Here it is!

  • barmalej Mar 07, 2008

    This is obviously different motherboard (looks like Asus), so I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this connector or the model of motherboard from the picture above, that would be helpful too. Thanks

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What do you need to know IDE?,An IDE connector is that all computer use get connection with the device like hard drive and disc drive.These ports are available even in very old motherborads (upto 2 ports).Need more help?

Posted on Mar 07, 2008

  • Roshan Vithanage
    Roshan Vithanage Mar 07, 2008

    You don't have the cable? ok>>>

    IDE has one type of cable.A thin about 3cm long (what you have on the picture) .These cables available in most computer shops (Where they sell used computers).

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Find socket for hard drive


HP part number 5188-5473 brings up the Asus A8N-LA motherboard, made especially for HP,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00647121#N413

The rest of the number/letters do me no good.

I will elate some information based on the above, and see if it does you any good;

1) The Asus A8N-LA has connectors for two types of Harddrives;

A) IDE. Also known as PATA.

This type of Harddrive uses a flat ribbon IDE(PATA) data cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nappe.svg

Another look,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_cables.jpg

(The Asus name probably won't be on it. These two IDE data cables just happen to be made by Asus )

The connectors on each end have 40 socket holes. One socket hole will be blocked off. (Or should be) ONLY 39 socket holes are used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

A look at the connector on the motherboard;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_on_mainboard.jpg

Looking at the motherboard illustration, look at the Bottom/Right corner. There are two IDE connectors. They are marked as IDE 1, and IDE 2.

Scrolling down a little bit to the motherboard photo, you will see IDE 1 connector is Black in color, and IDE 2 is Blue in color.

The IDE (PATA) harddrive's data cable goes to IDE 1.
Optical drive/s (CD/DVD drive) goes to IDE 2.

This is the type of power cable from the Power Supply, that goes to an IDE (PATA) harddrive,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

NOTE*
There is usually a square, or rectangle, or two bumps; used on the IDE ribbon cable connector, to line up with the connector on the motherboard, or harddrive, or optical drive.

It is called a Locating Lug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

This particular IDE data cable connector, has two raised bumps, for a Locating Lug.

It lines up with a Cutout in the motherboard's connector, or the harddrive's connector, or the optical drive's connector.

IF, there is NO Locating Lug, use the faint Red stripe on the side of the IDE data cable.
The red stripe is on the same side as Number 1 wire.

Number 1 wire goes to number 1 pin.
On a harddrive, or optical drive, number 1 pin is ALWAYS closest to the power cable connection,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Looking at the photo number 1 pin is on the Right side. It is closest to where the 4-pin Peripheral power cable plugs in.

B) SATA:

Looking at the motherboard photo, the Yellow, and Blue, and Black, and White connectors; to the left of the Blue IDE connector, and Black IDE connector; are SATA connectors.

SATA 1 is Black. This is where the SATA harddrive's data cable, is supposed to plug in.

The BEAUTY of SATA though, is that you can plug the harddrive into ANY of those SATA connectors on the motherboard, and BIOS will find the harddrive. (Or any other peripheral device)

An example of a SATA data cable, and it's connector,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_ports.jpg

The red SATA connector shown below the SATA cable example, is just a different style of SATA motherboard connector; than what your motherboard uses.

Note the L-shaped opening in the SATA data cable's connector.
Lines up with the L shape on the motherboard connector, or harddrive connector, or optical drive connector.

Most SATA data cable connectors, also have a Lock on them.
Sometimes it's a Lock you can easily see.

Most times, it is a small depression you depress with your thumbnail, or a little 'bulb' you depress.
Depress/unlock to plug the cable in, or remove the cable.

The 90 degree angle connector end, (As shown), plugs into the harddrive, or optical drive. The Straight connector end plugs into the motherboard.

This is an example of a SATA power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

Between it, and the SATA data cable connector, it is the larger of the two.
SATA power cable connector has 15-pins.
SATA data cable connector has 7-pins.

Also note the rectangular depression on the SATA power cable's connector. That is where you depress to unlock the connector.
The SATA power cable's connector also has an L-shaped opening.

2) IF, you are trying to hook up a laptop harddrive to this motherboard, you need to determine if the laptop harddrive is an IDE (PATA) type, or a SATA type.

How?
Easy.

There is a label on the laptop harddrive. It has the manufacturer code on it. Type the number/letters in your browser search bar, and click on the search icon. (Magnifying Glass)

Now purchase an external enclosure.

The external enclosure opens up, and the laptop harddrive goes inside, and plugs into an interface.

Close the external enclosure, and plug it's USB cable into any available, open USB port on your computer.

It will be a 2.5 external enclosure.
Harddrive's are measured across their width.

A desktop harddrive is 3.5 inches across in width.
A laptop harddive is 2.5.

Example of a 2.5 IDE (PATA) external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086960&CatId=2782

Example of a 2.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3195233&CatId=2783

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Jan 28, 2013 | HP Compaq Motherboard

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THE WIRES CONNECTING HARDDRIVE TO HP PAVILION503n


The HP Pavilion 503n Desktop PC uses an IDE (PATA) harddrive,

HP Support > Pavilion 503n Desktop PC > Main Support page,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=90381&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us

In the list click on - Product information
Now click on - Product specifications
Lastly click on -
Motherboard Specifications, TriGem 2002052 (Glendale)

Takes you to this page,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07813&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=90381

Scroll down, and look at the motherboard illustration, and photo.

Viewing the illustration look at the bottom right.
Primary IDE is where the harddrive plugs in.

In the motherboard photo this is the long Blue connector.

Now lets view an IDE 'ribbon' cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

Click on the photo to the upper right that shows the IDE cable, and it's blue connector. (The photo on the left of it shows the motherboard connector)

Here you see the rectangular connector, and a small square 'bump' on top.
The bump is a Locating Lug.

This lug is lined up with a cutout, in one side of the motherboard connector.
The other end of the cable's Locating Lug, lines up with a cutout on the back of the harddrive.

IF, there is no Locating Lug on the IDE cable connector;

There is a faint red stripe on one side of the cable. This is Always on the same side as number 1 wire, in the cable.

On the above link scroll the page down towards the middle, and the IDE cable illustration. (Under the heading - Parallel ATA Interface )

Number one contact pin on the harddrive, is ALWAYS towards the power connection, on the harddrive.

Example,

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/463/c/123/session/L3RpbWUvMTMzNjA1OTI2Ni9zaWQvRm95eENiWGs%3D

The above is for a Western Digital IDE harddrive, and shows the jumper settings.
I posted it for the back view of the harddrive.

Look at the where it states - 40-pin IDE connector.
Now look at the right side where it states - Power connector

When the IDE flat ribbon cable is plugged into the harddrive, the faint red strip faces - Power connector

On the motherboard look at the blue connector stated above.
Looking at it with the optical drive connector above it, (Secondary IDE),
the red stripe goes to the LEFT.

With the IDE cable plugged into the Primary IDE, and the Secondary IDE connector above the Primary IDE connector, the faint red stripe goes to the LEFT.

Need an IDE cable?

http://www.directron.com/ultra66.html

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette


( Jose,
The plastic front piece of your computer is the Front Panel.

The area of contact pins on the motherboard, that the wires from the Front Panel go to, is the Front Panel header.
If you need a pinout of what contact pins these wires go to, just state in a Comment )

May 03, 2012 | HP Computers & Internet

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I LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO KNOW WHETHER THE PRODUCT IS STILL FUNCTIONING OR NOT? PLEASE ADVISE. SHOW ME HOW TO DO THE CONNECTION OF THE IDE CABLE TO THE HARD DISC AND THE POWER CABLE? HOPEFULLY THESE ARE NOT...


No product support question is stupid, Peter.

1) An IDE cable should be plugged in with the Number 1 socket hole in the IDE cable's connector, going on the Number 1 pin on the harddrive.

Number 1 pin on an IDE optical drive, or harddrive, is next to the 4-pin power connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hard_drive-en.svg

Illustration which shows the back of an IDE (PATA) harddrive.

See the area marked as IDE Connector?
Two rows of pins.

Next over are the Jumper pins in the Jumper Block.

Finally, next to the Jumper Block is the 4-pin power connection.


To make sure the IDE flat ribbon cable, is inserted into the harddrive in the correct position, a Locating Lug is usually on the IDE flat ribbon cable's connector.

A small rectangle, or two bumps side by side, on the top edge of the connector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_Plug.svg

This Locating Lug lines up with a cutout, in the circuit board of the harddrive.
A Locating Notch.

Sometimes there isn't a Locating Lug.
In this case look at the side edge of the IDE cable for the faint Red stripe.
This red stripe is on the same side as Number 1 pin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nappe.svg

So when you go to plug the IDE cable in, make sure the Red stripe is facing the 4-pin power connection.

Goes for an optical drive (CD/DVD drive), or a Harddrive.



(On the motherboard there are usually two IDE headers. {Connectors}

One for the Primary IDE device, a Harddrive, and one for the Secondary IDE device.
Usually an optical drive.

Next to the Primary IDE connector on the motherboard may be PRI, or Pri, or Primary, or IDE 1.
{ In TINY letter/numbers }

Next to the Secondary IDE connector on the motherboard, may be SEC, or Sec, or Secondary, or IDE 2.

Sometimes only the Secondary connector is marked. This tells you the other connector is the Primary connector.

Number 1 pin is towards the marking. Primary, or Secondary.
The Red stripe goes towards the marking on the motherboard )

Also;
There are two rows of pins on the back of the Harddrive for the IDE cable.
With a cursory glance it may look as though there are two rows of 20 pins.
There is not.

One pin has been removed. One row only has 19 pins.
Generally, but NOT always, the matching socket hole in the IDE cable's connector, is blocked off with a plug.

An IDE cable only uses 39 socket holes even if there are 40 shown.

Also; NOT a good idea to put a Harddrive, and an Optical Drive, on the same IDE cable.

BIOS looks to see which drive has the Master Boot Record.
Windows master boot record.
This is on the Harddrive.

BIOS will look at both, the Harddrive, and the Optical Drive.
This slows the computer down, for one.
For two, BIOS may not find which drive has the master boot record, with both drives on the same IDE flat ribbon cable.

Harddrive goes to the Primary IDE cable.
Optical drive/s go to the Secondary IDE cable.



2) As for the power cable it is a 4-pin standard Peripheral power cable.
Often misnomered as a 'Molex' cable.

[Molex was the model name given by the first company to produce this connector.
It stuck.
Kind of like referring to an open-end wrench as a Crescent wrench ]

It is also a STANDARD 4-pin Peripheral power cable, because there two 4-pin Peripheral power cables.

4-pin Standard Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Note in the center photo the shape of the connector.
The top two corners are rounded.
Only plugs in, in one direction.

{The Yellow wire is a 12 Volt wire.
Red = 5 Volts
Black wires are Ground wires }

4-pin Small Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#floppy

Older computers used this power cable for a Floppy Drive.
Newer computers use it for a Card Reader.


For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Oct 01, 2011 | Computers & Internet

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I want to install a CD/DVD RW drive. This is in addition to the installed CD/DVD already in place. The new drive has a SATA connection on the back, and the only available connector is an IDE connector....


There are IDE to SATA adapters and cables, such as this one linked below. IDE to SATA Adapter
You would simply plug this adapter into the available IDE connection on your motherboard, then use the SATA data and power cable to connect from the adapter to the CD/DVD drive. You can look around online for similar products, but they should get the job done!

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How do i install a wdeads hard drive? where is the power supply (4pin Molex)?


I'LL TELL YOU UPFRONT i HAVE ONLY INSTALLED SATA ON A NEW SYSTEM SO MY ANSWER MAY NOT BE CORRECT IN ALL SITUATIONS
Question is vague. Are you replacing a drive or building a new system? SATA drives have a dedicated plug on the Mother Board. Of course you already know you can't replace an IDE with a SATA without an adapter (Ebay has them for about $8) or the Bios is incompatible. The power is on the Motherboard and does not have a connector from the power supply like an IDE has.

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Intel D845GEBV2 can i use SATA to PATA convertor or a SATA PCI card. I need to fix SATA Harddrive


There are no onboard SATA connectors as i can see so you can either use a PCI-SATA card or use a PATA(Parallel ATA connector) which is the older grey ribbon cable used to connect the older IDE harddrives using an adapter which is very easily available at most computer hardware stores.The power supply will also need an adapter from the drive SATA power to Molex (white power ) Connector.

Power connector looks like this

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And the Data cable looks like this , the one in the image is a combo power + Data connector PATA to SATA converter.
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How do I install a new CD drive in an old destop computer It is an old Compaq Presario 5WV254 The existing CD drive has a ribbon type connector that mates up to the pins on the drive plus a 4 pin module...


The Compaq Presario SWV254 Desktop PC uses IDE technology, not SATA.
In the specifications for the above Desktop PC, it states ATAPI is used for the interface technology, and connector, for the optical drive/s.

[IDE is also referred to as PATA. Parallel ATA
SATA is Serial ATA.
The PATA designation was implemented, so that computer users could easily distinct between IDE, and SATA technology]

1) The IDE interface cable, (Flat ribbon cable), has a connector on each end with 40 socket holes.
(39 are actually used. Most of the time, one socket hole is blocked off. (Pin 32)

2) The SATA interface cable has 7 contact pins. Also referred to as a Data cable.

3) The IDE devices, (Harddrive and optical drive), use a 4-pin Molex connector for the power cable.

4) The SATA devices use a 15-pin connector on the end of the power cable.

More info on SATA,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA

The Samsung SH223C optical drive is a SATA device.
You cannot just plug it in.

IF, you have an open, (Available), PCI slot on the motherboard, you can use a SATA adapter card.
The SATA adapter card plugs into the PCI slot, and has the necessary connections on the card, for a SATA interface cable.

(NOTE*
Just for the SATA interface cable. Does not have a connection for the SATA power cable, you need.

You have to buy a 4-pin Molex to SATA power cable adapter, and connect it to an available 4-pin Molex power cable, on your power supply.

You will also need a SATA data cable. The interface cable that goes from the SATA adapter card, to the SATA optical drive you're trying to install)

This is an example of a SATA adapter card. It is not an advertisement for said website, nor manufacturer,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1281807&CatId=1455

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How does the ide cable connect to the hard drive i don't see any pins for the master, i see pins for the slave I see what looks like tabs where the pins should be, do these need to be removed or is there...


The IDE cable has a connector that has a plastic notch in the middle of the connector and this matches the recess on the IDE connector socket on the hard drive. If it doesn't have a notch on the connector on the IDE cable then the connector needs to be plugged into the hard drive with the red stripe on the cable adjacent to the power connector.
The MASTER (MA), SLAVE (SL), and CS jumper settings are usually located bwtween the IDE and power connectors. The jumper connects only two pins across the rows of pins. If the hard drive is the main boot drive it is jumpered as MASTER on to be connected to the IDE cable on the first IDE controller. If the hard drive is connected on the first IDE controller as the second drive then it is jumpered as the SLAVE.
If the hard drive is connected to the second IDE controller then it can be jumpered as MASTER if nothing else in on the same IDE cable.

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IDE to SATA Adapter


Hi, could it be that you have an adapter that works one way only - IDE to SATA - it converts an IDE drive to SATA host port and therefore will not work in your motherboard. What you probably should get is Sata Drive to IDE connector. You might want to have a look @ http://www.satacables.com/html/sata-acessories.html./ Hope this be of some help to you. Good luck.

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