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Singer 413 bobbin problem

I can't get the bobbin thread to come up through the thread plate. It doesn't even look like its doing anything in there. Isn't the bobbing supposed to be spinning or something? I got this machine second hand. It has been cleaned up and oiled and everything else about it seems fine. Maybe there is some kind of trick about getting the bobbin thread to pop up--it's an old machine-maybe they're different? Thanks for any help/advice you can give.

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  • beagleface Apr 13, 2008

    I have the same problem. The free diagram is very helpful but I am having trouble with the tension spring. I pull the bobbin thread towards where I think the tension spring is but it ends up breaking the thread. Is there a trick to catching the tension spring?

  • Anonymous Mar 14, 2014

    Please help me. I have looked at everything possible bobbin etc th readings of machine. Bobbin thread cannot be pulled through to the top. Maybe it is just getting to old it is over 20 now.

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Hi,

Have a look at this free on-line manual here:

http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diagrams/Threading_Pages/Singer_Sewing_Machine_Threading/singer_413_threading_diagram.htm

It should answer your question. Yes, old machines are different! :-)

If you found this helpful, please Vote! Good Luck!

Posted on Mar 04, 2008

  • rob_rtac
    rob_rtac Mar 04, 2013

    This is NOT a solution. If the gears are not spinning down below, its NOT a problem with the way you are threading your bobbin. IGNORE this as a solution.

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1. Remove bobbin case. Put bobbin in (rotating counterclockwise).
2. Put thread under the tension plate. Let the bobbin hang from finger and bob up and down lightly.
3. Adjust tension. The bobbin should extend one inch every time it is bobbed.
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