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Posted on Feb 27, 2010

I have a quantum toilet that flushes normally but then syphons the water from the bowl Possible problem?

  • Curt Downs May 11, 2010

    Does it siphon the water slowly (takes 5-10 minutes or more), or does it happen immediately?

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Look for your main plumbing vent that goes out your roof, is it pluged with a nest or something? When your drain system drains, it needs outside air from the vent to keep the system from vaccume lock. Same as vapor lock in the gas line on your vehicle. If the system is'nt getting air it will **** the water from the traps in your drain system like it is doing in your toilet. You may have to have a professional drain cleaner or plumber correct your pluged vent.

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The toilet won't flush out I have changed the flapper and float but won't flush out the bowl

I am not familiar with the term flapper. I don't think our toilet cisterns use a flapper.

All the cisterns I have seen work by a syphon action and mostly the only thing that goes wrong with them is the thin polythene disc buried inside the syphon. The disc lays across a hollow piston and the linkage lifts the piston to begin the syphon action and the flush.

There are a few designs of push-button cisterns designed to be more economic on water which I haven't yet seen the inside of but I expect they too will work on a syphon principle - in the absence of a pump how else could it work?

in almost every case of a syphon not working (assuming everything is more or less as it should be) is air getting in somewhere and preventing the mechanism lifting the head of water to begin the syphon.

Sorry I can't help further.
Mar 28, 2016 • Home
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FIXING A TOILET THAT WILL NOT FLUSH!!! a simple but very effective money saving...

This simple how to, is based upon most lever operated toilets, with the cistern mounted above the toilet bowl. The make and model of toilet used for this feature is of the following:
Toilet and internal syphon
DUDLEY ELITEDudley S7 Cascade syphon
Problem:
My toilet will not flush, but the ball float valve is working and there is water in the cistern; no leaks present and the flushing lever is not broken or disconnected, what do I do?
Answer:
first isolate the water to the toilet or the main water supply to the house. Bail out the water from the cistern using a small jug or cup, (or you can syphon the water manually using a hosepipe or similar pipe, a towel to cover your mouth, and either a bucket or the toilet bowl) and remove water from the bottom of the cistern with a sponge.


Changing the syphon in a toilet that is not close coupled is far easier as you do not need to remove the cistern from the wall!


Undo the lower of the two large nuts beneath the cistern using a large pipe wrench or pair of water pump pliers, now disconnect the flush pipe and push it to one side.
Place a bucket or bowl beneath the cistern and undo the Nut which is immediately below the cistern (syphon replacing nut), some water may be released by the syphon, take note of any washers that are removed as new ones need fitting when replacing the siphon.
Unhook the lift rod from the flushing lever and remove the syphon.


Inside the toilet syphon, there will be a small plastic piece of sheet called a diaphragm; you can fabricate a replacement using the plastic title cover on a DVD case. Cut this to the exact same size and shape as the original part, and fit this to where the original diaphragm was. This is your new replacement.


Refitting is a complete reversal of removal, be sure to fit any washers (preferably new ones) that you have taken out. Ensure everything is tight but do not over tighten before refilling the cistern



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Why doesn't the waste go all the way down? It takes several flushes.

Welcome to our new world of water conservation. If you have a toilet that isn't newer....you have something in your trap weir. Or your flapper is malfunctioning. Or your float valve isn't filling your tank correctly. Or your bowl scouring ports could be clogged. There are sooo many things that could cause this....
.New toilets do this because their design to use less water has reached the point of no-longer working to clear the bowl contents. Plain and simple. It has became the norm to flush once for #1's and flush (how ever many it takes to flush all waste) for #2's.
Back to old styles...You can remove the tank top and inspect the water level in the tank(should be about a 1/2" below overflow tube when full), inspect the flapper(flush the toilet and see if your flapper is staying up long enough to allow enough water to enter the bowl to cause a syphon action that ends with a suction sound and complete emptying of the water from the bowl), flush your toilet and look in the bowl to see if the water spraying from your rim is adequately dispensing water to scour the sides of the bowl, and also look at the jet that shoots water from the bottom of the bowl...aimed toward the outlet portion of the very bottom of the interior bowl. This jet is what starts the syphon action that empties your bowl. If you have something stuck in your trap weir....you probably need to call your Plumber to auger the object out or break it down to a size that will pass into the sewer.
The small ports that spray your sides can be cleared with a 3/16" stiff nylon brush...the jet down below can be cleared with a 1" stiff nylon brush. Flapper malfunction is repaired by replacing the flapper. Incorrect water level in the tank can be fixed by adjusting the valve float. but chances are that if it is all of a sudden malfunctioning...it probably needs to be replaced...good luck and always know how to turn your water off before starting work on your plumbing.
Be gentle with the parts inside your toilet tank. Using a calcium remover when clearing bowl inner ports and jets will help tremendously....but be certain to read the container and follow all handling/use instructions you read. Be careful.....Nick
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After automatic flush, water continuously runs into bowl. The water is coming from the upper bowl above the wand area.

i would think the syphon is not closing after the flush, so as the cistern fills it just runs straight into the pan. you'll need to replace the syphon...
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When I flush the tank only half empties and not enough flushing action is the result as well as the bowl does not adequately fill after the flush.

Hi, if you remove the cistern lid and flush the toilet, look at the float (back left) to see if this is rising freely when the water fills back up. Once the water has stopped filling, check the fill level lines on the large syphon in the middle of cistern. Your model of toilet has an eco flush which will be lowest line to save water, so not as much water will flush out. There is a long plastic screw on the float (back left) which you can turn to adjust the water level to the higher line on syphon (1.6 gallon flush) and turn it slowley till the water level reaches that mark. flush a couple of times to see it is filling back up to the set amount.
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When flushing the toilet, there is not a lot of "push" behind the flush. I'm having to flush two times, regardless of what is in the toilet.

It is normal for these useless new tanks to do that. Won't even flush a piece of paper. Pull off the lid and make sure the little hose is in the overflow pipe, and raise the water level as high as you can. take out all the bricks and water bottles, and bowl cleaners. Then give it a try. It might do a bit better. Hope this helps.
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Aquia II Dual Flush Toilet: toilet after flush removes to much water from bowl...

Adjust the float on the Fluid-master a little higher if possible. This should allow more water to enter the bowl after the flush.
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Sounds like your toilet is not vented properly. Possilbly something caught in the trap is causing it to syphon
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When flushed, not enough water flow to empty sides and waste

make sure water level is sat at factory settings. there should be a black line that reads WATER LEVEL. If this is not the problem. then you have calci buildup. get a gal. of muratic acid,plunge all water out of toilet bowl. then dump in at least 1/2 gal. let set over nite. with water turned off. get up turn on water then flush. You mite have to do it twrice. hope this helps you.... duane.
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