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Boiler fails to fill

When i turn on the power switch, i can hear a pump running, but no water flows from the water container into the boiler.

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Your water container is not put it correctly. make sure both black plastic bars on the container are flush with the metal rails that they sit on.

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Cannot get boiler to fill


Sounds like pump is dry, you somehow need to get water into the pump. If you have a water flow button/switch try that.

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If you have the auto-descale in the menu then run it. Run the solution through the machine twice. Then rinse well.

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Proper way to descale an espresso machine.


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I have seen all ways to descale espresso machines on this and other sites and most are wrong!
Never leave the machine heating while the descaler is in the boiler. It's OK for a few seconds but never for minutes or hours. It will turn your seals hard as a rock and the machine will start leaking. If your machine is leaking you probably left your machine on while it was descaling. Factory programs, if used do not turn the boilers on in the descale mode for this very reason.
If your machine has a factory descale mode, use it. All factory descaling programs use the flow meter to regulate the descaling. The flow meter tells the computer how much water has gone through the boiler. when the machine is out of water the flow meter will stop turning and the computer knows the machine has used up all the descaler, and it will want to be rinsed. Remember the pump has to stop on its own for the computer to know it's done! Again the flow meter will tell the computer it is rinsing and when it is again out of fresh water it will tell the computer it is done rinsing and the descaling message or light will disappear. Remember the pump has to stop on its own for the computer to know it's done! It may say descale on some computers and there is a program for resetting the descale. It's in your menu as "Reset Descale". Choose "Yes" and push the menu button to lock. It's all regulated by your water hardness. I have mine set on 4 and my water is very good. I have over 20,000 drinks, and the original boiler. Saeco(Starbucks) Barista Digital.
This method can be used on any espresso machine.
1. Remove the water tank and fill half way with fresh water.
2. Mix your descaling powder (Citric Acid or Durgol Never use Vinegar) in a glass of warm water. When dissolved pour into water tank.
3. Open steam knob. Have a large bowl under the wand to catch the water expelled from wand.
4. Turn on machine (automatics will cycle then start pumping water) Regular espresso machines you will need to turn on the brew button.
5. When the pump has expelled about 8 ozs through the steam wand turn off only the power button. Leave the other buttons and knobs alone.
6. Wait about 10 to 15 minutes for the descaler to work, then turn the power button on and run another 8 ozs through the wand and turn off the power button.
7. Repeat step 6 until the water tank is empty. (machines that have magnets in the water tank will not let you pump the water tank dry but they have programs built in to use that will)
8. Once the tank of descaler is empty, rinse out and fill with fresh water.
9. Open steam knob and run the complete tank of fresh water through the boiler without stopping, and once its complete refill with fresh water and your ready to go.

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Britony 80 combi boiler G31 propane, gas flow rate =0.124877 cubic meters per hour, inlet pressure 37mbar, room sealed flu Manufactures recommended Co2 & NFGT unknown, cold water from hot tap when...


You gave a good description of the boiler--
now we need to hear the clues you have observed, as it fires (or fails to fire-- or what?)

Or as the water flow-- or doesn't flow?
As the cold water enters-- what does the flame do?
And does the flow rate reduce as the flow gets to the divert er valve?

How old is the boiler?-- and have we been using HARD water?
(Any water softener in the circuit to remove calcium and magnesium, etc.?)
Do you suspect a scaling problem in the interior parts?
If so-- can you circuit an acid thru the innards, to clean up the scale?

Please comment on what happens when water and gas flow-- so we can help you get to the next step.

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If you do get water flowing trough the group, try backwashing the machine.
If these things dont help then you should take it to an authorised repairer or open up the boiler yourself if you are a handy person and have access spare parts. Good luck, these machines can make a great espresso when in the right hands and working order.

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If the water switches on and off when you switch the machine power supply on and off then it is either the pressure switch or the pipe supplying the pressure to the pressure switch

Easy test is to remove the pressure switch pipe at the base of the outer container and start the washer filling , blow lightly into the pipe and you should hear a click and the water should turn off

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