Question about Biostar P4M80-M4 Motherboard

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Double boot on the first bootup my computer will stay on for about 30 seconds and then reboot.this problem started after i went from 512 Mb of ram to 2 gigs of ram.is it possible that my power supply can't take the extra load of the extra memory or maybe my power supply is going bad.i just had it installed about 4 months ago.it's a 430 watt power supply.my mother board is a p4m800-biostar.

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  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    i had a new motherboard put in and it needed a larger power supply.

  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    i had 512 Mgs of ram pc3200 400 i upgraded to 2 gigs of pc3200 400

  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    yea i looked about two months ago too.they still had my board in there,but not anylonger.they have gone to the big gaming boardsand some other expensive boards that i can't afford

  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    no i still have it,and the motherboard drivers to.i'm tempted to pull the new memory and try the original memory to see what happens

  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    yea you're probably right i need to google it to find the right site i guess.i didn't see the site you mentioned in your comments,sorry

  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    yea you're probably right i need to google it to find the right site i guess.i didn't see the site you mentioned in your comments,sorry

  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    okay'i found it.i'm printing it out right now.

  • redchips57 Feb 27, 2008

    lol ,yea i know what you mean!!! well if your going to be around tomorrow i'll try to get back to you.thankyou so much for the help you gave me tonite.i got to hit the sack got to be up at 4:30 to go to work.have a good nit hanto.

  • redchips57 Feb 28, 2008

    well i tried changing the memory from 2 gigs to 1.5 gigs and so far it seems to be working out alright.but i did get a error report that said i had a bad device driver.i just reloaded all of the drivers 2 nites ago so i don't undrestand why i would get a error report like that.

  • redchips57 Feb 28, 2008

    dear hanto;

    sorry for the missunderstanding.i thought that i was sending the message back to you.and you certainly didn't complicate anything i was asking you.i certainly didn't mean to offend you in any way.and by the way thanks for all the time that you did spend with me, and thanks for the last answer you sent today.

  • redchips57 Feb 29, 2008

    thankyou hanto.i really am sorry for the mess i caused.i had no intention of doing that.i felt so embarresd when i got that response.once again sorry.

    redchips57@concast.net

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Hi,
I,ve only just noticed This Post, and have,nt really read all the comments. But if it,s a Matched Pair Of Ram modules, these can conflict if certain bios settings are adjusted Correctly.
Try 1 single slot of Ram in each Slot. and run computer.
If that works Fine, get another Stick or Ram, that is not Identical ( different Brand ) I.e Samsung-Kingston-infineon et,c.
This may solve your problem, i had a similar experience with dual-channel memory, Matched Pair Modules.
Hope you Sort It Out.
Mike @ compurepair.

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  • Mike Waldron Feb 28, 2008

    Hi Hanto,

    Thanks for your Comment.

    I always appreciate someone else point of view especially if it,s a valid one, And yours Is.

    I bought a matched pair of Kingston once, and put them on my Mobo. The system Booted to the setup screen, and looped straight back round again, to reboot.

    It would have carried on round and round et,c.

    by taking out 1 strip of Ram, Problem solved.

    Without going through the long winded process of hardware elimination, removing the graphics card, or other hardware devices. My problem was solved. there could be so many things to look into, My board obviously did not like The running Dual-Channel, this could have been A bus Incompatability, Processor inability et,c. Incidently, and all respect granted to yourself. You can,t have a catastrophic data loss, via RAM. as it,s only used when the computers running, to transfer Data to and from the CPU, and running applications.

    The key aspect here, is The Problem Is Resolved.

    You can still use 2 X 512kb Strips et,c. Just Different Brands. The principal of Dual-Channel Matched pair memory Modules. is to get the Maximum Data-Rate flow Through Motherboard-CPU et,c. The downfall is that the datas travelling faster, or Double Rate, Ultimately Is this A Good Thing ? todays modern Motherboards are so precise and finely manufactured, that even a slight scratch on the mobo surface, can cause an arc, and the Boards In The Bin. Thanks for Your Input Hanto. Knowledge Is always Invaluable.

    Best Wishes Mike @ Compurepair.

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Almost anything is possible, but in general a 430 watt P/S should be able to run 2 gigs of ram, however that doesn't mean that the ram you purchased is the correct ram for the motherboard or that you have so many other added perpherials i.e. dual or tripe CD drives, hard drives, USB perpherials that the load is simply to great for your P/S. A rule of thumb is find out what your system ' will ' run with and then work from there. For example if a person was serous about this problem he might disconnect all power connectors to all other equipment other then his hard drive, monitor/video card, and his motherboard just to see if the system could then boot normally. If it did, chances are the memory is okay for the motherboard in normal circumstances. However if the system did not boot normally, it might be an incompatibility with the 2 gigs of memory on that particular motherboard. Memory is not a generic add-on. A person needs to make sure the memory is correct for a motherboard before installing. Also you indicate the present P/S is only 4 months old, any particular reason why you had it changed out to begin with??

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp...



    No bios updates for this motherboard yet, but if possible I highly recommend you download the manual and all drivers and keep them safe away from your C: partition. Also check this site frequently for updated drivers, bios updates, etc. With so many motheroboard companies having been lost in last few years it is nice to see one still supporting their products. But I was faked out by the Epox site just the other day, I thought it was still up also only to find out that nothing had been changed on the site since 1st quarter 2007. So what kind of memory do you have in the form of the two gigs and what was on it originally??

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    Was unable to locate drivers or manual for this motherboard so I looked at home page, nothing new since May 2007. Probably another dead company due to to many people buying the proprietary units.

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    Motherboard is supposed to be able to handle two gigs. Were the original and replacement ram made by the same manufacturer? I have to say that I am not convinced that the problem is ram tho, even if that is the only replacement you have made. I would still look at the system as I initially mentioned, without anything hooked up except the monitor/video card, motherboard, and hard drive just to see if it boots normally. I would like to think you still have the original memory that you had with the system, but that may be to much to ask??

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    your board is still there on the website I gave you. The comment you make sounds more like you are talking about a retailer/wholesaler then about the manufacturer's website that I gave you.

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    Excellent idea, wish I had thought of it myself

  • Ravel Lively
    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    Look again, its on my second comment top part

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    Just so you know, I don't Google anything as I want information not salesmanship

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    You too sir.. have a good one

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    Ravel Lively Feb 27, 2008

    Hmm, Mike, a matched pair of Ram modules is supposed to be the best and sometimes the only way some motherboards will operate. Purposely mismatching Ram modules may cosmetically fix an issue for a short time, i.e. long enough to boot up, but it may well add to other issues during operation especially stressful memory and hard drive operations. I personally would not want to add to possible Hard drive corruptions due to mismatched memories. With the speeds now attained by system memory, any mismatch could lead to castastrophic loss of data. I'm not against the idea of placing only one Ram module onto the motherboard tho, I just wish he had his original 512 MBs and I'm not sure that he doesn't.

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    Ravel Lively Feb 28, 2008

    Redchips57, please delete me as a tech buddy, Your seeming disregard for the time and energy I spent with you and your rather quick decision to give the ' fixya ' to Compurepair. I suggest that he should be your tech buddy. I am not here to be part of a social gathering or even to make money but to give people the best advice possible. Thank you and I hope I don't complicate your questions again

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    Ravel Lively Feb 29, 2008

    Thank you Redchips, I appreciate your generosity and desire to put things right.

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    Ravel Lively Feb 29, 2008

    Mike, anything I need to say to you should be in the Expert's Lounge. There is already a thread about you and it has plenty of comments you should read, mine among them. And I can back up everything I have to say.

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    Ravel Lively Feb 29, 2008

    Redchips57, if you further questions, please let me know, Might be wise to start a new thread tho as this one has become corrupted with data strewn from a bad memory. ( hantoyo1@yahoo.com )

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