Question about Saeco Spidem Villa

2 Answers

Grinder makes noise but keep spinning until red

Grinder makes noise but keeps spinning without seeming to actually grind more than a few beans and keeps spinning until red light comes on. I have plenty of beans in hopper and they are getting down to the bottom.

Posted by on

  • 5 more comments 
  • tradinfool Feb 07, 2010

    The unit is about 18 months old. It's basically impossible to tell if and how the ground coffee makes its way through the system. The unit doesn't seem to come apart in an easy way (i.e. there are no obvious screws and not being a pro, I don't want to start messing with it beyond the basics). However, it sort of seems that the grinder may grind a few beans, but they don't seem to get pushed out of the little grinder to where I assume the beans come in contact with hot water. So as I said, the grinder motor just continues to run without more than a few beans being ground until it stops itself and the red warning light comes on.

  • tradinfool Feb 07, 2010

    The unit is about 18 months old. It's basically impossible to tell if and how the ground coffee makes its way through the system. The unit doesn't seem to come apart in an easy way (i.e. there are no obvious screws and not being a pro, I don't want to start messing with it beyond the basics). However, it sort of seems that the grinder may grind a few beans, but they don't seem to get pushed out of the little grinder to where I assume the beans come in contact with hot water. So as I said, the grinder motor just continues to run without more than a few beans being ground until it stops itself and the red warning light comes on.

  • tradinfool Feb 08, 2010

    Did what you suggested.... removed the brew group and found that door. There did seem to be some grounds lodged up in there and cleaned them out. It's impossible to get a vacuum up into that drop chute area (although I was able to stick a vacuum on top of the grinder itself and cleaned that area up a bit from the top. I also turned the machine sideways and banged it gently in hopes of clearing out any clogs in that passage. Unfortunately, none of this helped. If I had to guess I'd say the passage is blocked right under the grinder but there doesn't seem to be any obvious way to get under there. What would happen if I slowly poured warm water down into the grinder in hopes of possibly cleaning the passage out that way (from the top_?

  • tradinfool Feb 09, 2010

    Great minds think alike.... I was actually going to get some pipe cleaners today and try just that. Will post the results.

  • tradinfool Feb 10, 2010

    In the end, I seemed to have got it working again. I don't really know what did the trick, but between using a wire and vacuuming the top of the grinder several times the clog seems to be gone. It is also possible that small amounts of water or oil contributed to a grounds clog and perhaps after a couple of days of drying out the grinds came out when I turned it sideways and upside down several times and gently banged it. I wish I could definitively state what fixed it but I can't.

  • tradinfool Feb 10, 2010

    In the end, I seemed to have got it working again. I don't really know what did the trick, but between using a wire and vacuuming the top of the grinder several times the clog seems to be gone. It is also possible that small amounts of water or oil contributed to a grounds clog and perhaps after a couple of days of drying out the grinds came out when I turned it sideways and upside down several times and gently banged it. I wish I could definitively state what fixed it but I can't.

  • earlotto2004 May 11, 2010

    How old is this unit? Check and make sure path is free for the coffee to advance through the system.

×

2 Answers

  • Level 3:

    An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

    Superstar:

    An expert that got 20 achievements.

    All-Star:

    An expert that got 10 achievements.

    MVP:

    An expert that got 5 achievements.

  • Master
  • 1,089 Answers

Sounds like you have a blockage in you grind passage. Try removing the brew group. Then inside on the roof of the machine where the brew unit was setting there is a drop chute where the coffee is dropped into the brew unit. . From the left side of the drop chute pull down and back, and it will drop coffee. . This will clear an opening that relieves pressure on the passage. There is a passage inside the drop chute area that goes to the grinder. Vacuum it out. It will be on the right side of the drop chute. Once that is cleared go to the bean hopper. If you have 2 knobs in the bean hopper. Turn the small knob to the minus, (if you don't have one, disregard). Turn the large knob to the largest number. You can turn the knob to a larger number any time but it has to be grinding to turn to a smaller number. Now replace everything and make your coffee. Once you have made your coffee you can turn the knob back to a number that was higher than the one you had it on, but only when the grinder is running.

Posted on Feb 08, 2010

Testimonial: "Although good information was provided, it didn't solve the problem. Thank you for trying and I left a follow-up clarification report."

  • bansheracer Feb 12, 2010

    Hi

    If it happens again, turn the large knob to the 18 and the small on the the minus, then push the brew button again. This will clean out the clog and clean the burrs. The large grinds work like scrappers, and clean everything.

    The problem is when the grind adjustment is turned down to fine grinds, the oils in the beans can cement the grinds together and cause the blockage. they can't flow through the passage and start to back up and pack in. Making the grinds a little coarser will prevent this, but if it does do what I said in the begining and you can be right back brewing a great drink.

×

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

    Corporal:

    An expert that has over 10 points.

    Mayor:

    An expert whose answer got voted for 2 times.

    Problem Solver:

    An expert who has answered 5 questions.

  • Contributor
  • 7 Answers

Is there any possible way you can get a wire up the pathway or from the top to where the beans go down? Don't do anything to compromise the unit though. If you can't do that find a repair shop. This is just more than a normal problem with the unit an a professional shop should look at it

Posted on Feb 09, 2010

Testimonial: "Thanks tried the wire (after a pipe cleaner proved too soft) I don't think the wire was really maneuverable enough but thanks for the suggestion."

1 Suggested Answer

6ya6ya
  • 2 Answers

SOURCE: I have freestanding Series 8 dishwasher. Lately during the filling cycle water hammer is occurring. How can this be resolved

Hi,
a 6ya expert can help you resolve that issue over the phone in a minute or two.
best thing about this new service is that you are never placed on hold and get to talk to real repairmen in the US.
the service is completely free and covers almost anything you can think of (from cars to computers, handyman, and even drones).
click here to download the app (for users in the US for now) and get all the help you need.
goodluck!

Posted on Jan 02, 2017

Add Your Answer

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

1 Answer

Our Saeco Vienna Superautomatica sounds like it's grinding beans but keeps running until the red 'bean' light comes on and we have to shut the machine off. Any suggestions?


The grinder is timing out and stops if the beans do not enter the grinder. This happens because:
1- The grinder outlet is clogged and fresh beans cannot pass through the burrs.
2- The grind setting is too fine and helping clogging in the grinding chamber or the ground coffee outlet.
3- Operator may have been using dark roast oily beans. Like it or not, the dark roast oily beans do not make stronger espresso. Please stop using such beans in fully automatic espresso machines.
4- The grinder has already made over 2000 grinds and the burrs are blunted and not grinding beans as needed.
To solve this malfunction, clean the grinder. Make sure the grinder outlet to the doser is cleaned. This outlet passage is about 2 inches or more. To clean it, lay the machine on its back (water tank side) to allow better view of cleaning the doser and the passage of coffee from the grinder to the doser. Use the link below to find instructions for cleaning the grinder and replace the burrs.
Gaggia Titanium and Plus Espresso machines parts and repairs Saeco...

Oct 18, 2014 | Coffee Makers & Espresso Machines

1 Answer

Makes funny noise when I try to grind coffee and no ground coffee comes down into the handle. Seems like something is stuck in the grinder.


if you hear it trying to grind, but is not, or hear it spinning and is not grinding, more than likely it is blocked, or so oily that bean will not drop. Coffee beans, have so much oils in them, that after a while it gets caked up, and beans either get jammed, or stuck. If you hear grinder low humming, then it is probably stuck or clogged, if it is on but hear like a spinning sound, beans are not dropping, because they are stuck because of oil build up. If you can get to the grinder, turn machine off, unplug, get all beans out, take like a wooden chop stick and put it in area where beans go and move the chop stick around the gears. you like your reaming it out kind of. turn machine back on, try this procedure a few times. ( MAKE SURE MACHINE IS UNPLUGGED WHEN DOING THIS) As said early if it is a low humming, like motor turning but jammed, do not use until jam is fixed, you will burn up motor, then have more expensive fix. Let me know if this helped and solved problem. Mr Bean Man from Fixya

Jun 12, 2011 | Breville BES860XL

2 Answers

I have a Breville BES860XL and the grinder is not working. If i overide the interlock, It will spin, but does not have enough power to grind beans


It seems there's a fault in the grinder gearing in this particular model.There's no solution but to take it to Breville repair...
I have the same problem and so does a friend of mine. The grinder will spin without beans in the hopper but as soon as beans are introduced the grinder makes a loud noise. Like the gears are slipping and there's not enough power to grind.

Jun 10, 2011 | Breville BES860XL

2 Answers

Attemps to gind but no beans seem to get through Then the display indicates 'add beans' although it is full


Machine thinks there are no beans because it is not grinding. Most likely the grinder is blocked. The common causes are a small foreign object, a stale hard bean and moisture (either from water spillage or moist beans). The first thing you should do is vacuum ALL the beans out, set it to the coarsest grind setting and run the grinder a few times ( with no beans). Then put a small amount of fresh beans (make sure they are dry and not from fridge or freezer) in and try again. Give it a few goes. If it still wont grind have a good look down there, if it looks wet let it dry out for a while and try again. If none of thes easy tips help you will have to remove the top grinder burr and clean both burrs. Good luck.

Dec 14, 2010 | DeLonghi Esclusivo Magnifica ESAM3300...

1 Answer

Machine has major problem with grinding beans.


Try removing all beans from bean holder - then use a vacumn machine to remove the bits down amongst the grinder "teeth'. You may have had a small stone in your coffee and if so it may have jammed the grinder.

Once it looks clean, try making a cup of coffee without the beans in the hopper - you should be able to see and hear the grinder revolving and also hear the brew unit moving between the grinder outlet and the water inlet. If it all seems ok now, then add a small amount of beans back into the beans hopper and try making a coffee. If it still will not work, get it serviced. There's not much the average person can do inside these units other than to do more serious damage or kill themselves with an electric shock.

Nov 05, 2009 | Saeco Magic De Luxe Espresso Machine

3 Answers

I have a Saeco Incanto Rondo with a grinder related problem


First step.If the grind is to coarse the burrs will spin to fast sensing no beans.
Solution: The grind needs to be finer. Caution you can over adjust causing the clay burrs to shatter.
Bruce
Gold Roast Coffee
www.goldroast.ca

Jun 14, 2009 | Saeco Incanto Rondo Fully Automatic Coffee...

1 Answer

Heat


Hey Nashville,

I have a few suggestions/questions for you. I've had the Innova(Ascaso) Dream for several years now and use it at least twice daily. I would trust your own senses before sweating the gauges too much. If you're really worried about it being a temperature problem, my first question is whether or not the espresso is actually hot when it comes out.

But my best guess is honestly your beans and grinder (or lack thereof). The problem with using pre-ground beans is that even on the day you open the can, they won't be nearly as fresh as truly fresh ground beans you grind yourself. And the problem gets dramatically worse every day after they are opened.

The key to a thick, crema-laden espresso is very fresh beans that you grind right before making your espresso. You can certainly confirm that the machine is working with any old coffee grinder and a bag of *really* fresh beans from a local roaster.

You really need all the oils that come with really fresh-roasted and fresh-ground beans. And the beans really need to be ground very fine for espresso.

I keep a can of pre-ground Illy decaf beans around for the rare occasions I need to make a decaf, and it's like night a day between that and what I drink daily.

If you try the fresh beans and grind them yourself and can see the obvious difference, then you may want to invest in a good-quality burr grinder (as opposed to the spinning blade kind that most folks use for drip coffee). The reason is that with a burr grinder you can get consistently-sized particles every time. So once you get the setting right on your grinder you can keep pumping out the shots time after time. With a rotary blade grinder you get some big pieces, some little pieces and the water flows through too easily -- or you grind it longer and (1) burn the beans from the heat, and (2) end up with some particles that are just too small -- essentially dust, that will actually clog the process.

So, my best suggestion would be to find a local cafe/roaster and buy a half a pound of beans from them and grind yourself. If you don't have a grinder or want to eliminate a variable, ask them to grind it for you for an espresso machine.

Again, if you can see the difference (and I think you will), then you can consider getting yourself a good grinder.

Good luck!

Tony

Jan 03, 2009 | Ascaso Dream Espresso Machine

2 Answers

Stuck grinder


Hi,

make sure you not get any damp into the grinder. If you have damp in the grinder then it do not grind the beans.

/Mirran

Aug 30, 2008 | Saeco Incanto Classic Espresso Machine

6 Answers

Gaggia Titaminu


check to make sure the blades are secured to the motor shaft. some have a set screw, some are positioned over a pin in the motor shaft.

Sep 10, 2007 | Gaggia Titanium Espresso Machine

Not finding what you are looking for?
Saeco Spidem Villa Logo

587 people viewed this question

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Saeco Coffee Makers & Espresso Machines Experts

espressofixr

Level 1 Expert

16 Answers

83bj60

Level 1 Expert

22 Answers

Shehu Pro
Shehu Pro

Level 3 Expert

1284 Answers

Are you a Saeco Coffee Maker and Espresso Machine Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...