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After using steamer for milk frothing the red light comes on and cannot get esspresso to brew and no more steam or hot water comes out of the frothing nozzle, the water level is fine in reservior, beans in the compartment and dregdrawer is fine

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The tap valve is leaking inside the machine needs new seals.If moisture is escaped and hit the printed circuit card on the tap, the machine will stop you from doing other functions.

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The milk frother is not sucking milk from the cup... it appears that the steamer is working as if it is steaming the milk. Any ideas on why the frother tube is not sucking any milk up?


it is clogged with dried milk. Remove the frothing wand from the machine. now press milk froth. you should get a ton of steam blowing out of the hole where the frother used to be. Your frother comes apart for cleaning. pull the chrome tip off, pull the 90 degree fitting and the black milk suction tube off, if it is really dirty you can soak the disassembled frother in hot water with a cleaning tablet. ( the small ones you drop in the brew unit, not the big descaling tab.) also, there is a clear tube with a point on the end of it sticking out of the frothing wand. this is an air admittance oriface. it allows air to enter the hot milk stream and make it frothy and bubbly. if it gets clogged, you will get hot milk but no froth. Your machine came with a spare one in the parts kit.

Jul 04, 2011 | Miele CVA 4062 Stainless Steel

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Steam wand not working



The steam wand ejects steam in order to froth the milk. The steam wand should be cleaned after it is inserted into milk and at the end of each day. Do not allow the steam wands to soak in water overnight since some of the dirty water can be sucked into the boiling tank inside the machine this may cause the steam not to come out
Unplug the machine, take the case off, disconnect the switch wires and test it with a continuity meter. If you don't get any continuity, or if it is constantly closed and never open, the switch is bad.
this could have been prevented by regular maintenance and proper use. The usual suspect is a gummed up wand or brew line or user error. Here’s what to look for and how to avoid it.
First, notice what kind of wand you have. Most semi-automatic and porta-filter espresso units will have wands that resemble those on bottom or right, although the tips may be different. Some tips do not slide up and down to alter the aeration, as the one on the bottom does. If your wand is from an older (1990s) unit, it could have a more bulbous tip and a smaller hole in the tip. wandte1.jpg wandte2.jpgSome of the new wands give you a manual/automatic control.
wandte3.jpg Many of the new super automatics come with an automatic frothing unit, like this one from Jura-Capresso. The nice thing about the frothing wands on Jura-Capresso's new units is that they allow for even more control.
The "Dual Frother Plus" (top) works like the traditional frothing wand. The metal sleeve goes up for steam, down for foam.
The "Froth Xpress Plus" is a very handy device which can be used with the included sleek milk container or a distinct milk container, like a 1/2 gallon jug. The Froth Xpress has a tube (hard for using the included container, flexible for using a different container) that fits into the frothing tube behind the dial shown in the picture above. After selecting froth or steam, the milk is siphoned into a cup below the steam wand. We recommend steaming the milk first, then adding the espresso.

Whatever sort of wand you have, it is essential to keep it clear of solidified milk which can gum up the tip and even the wand shaft. Here are some symptoms of a clogged wand:
  • Little or no steam comes out of the wand
  • Hot water drips from the tip of the wand
  • A squeal or whistle comes out of the wand when the steam function is selected
  • A deep humming is heard when the steam function is selected*
*This is also a symptom of another more serious problem, particularly if you have a pump espresso machine; so if unclogging the wand does not solve it, you should contact a technician.
A good preventative measure against the clogging of a steam wand is regular rinsing in warm, soapy water of the tip and any other removable frothing part. This should be done after each steam wand use. If your machine has a Froth Xpress, it is important to clean all of the hoses, valve, and connectors (be very careful with the plug, however, because it is delicate). All wands should also have steam jetted through them after a frothing cycle is run.
Another preventative measure is to run a steam cycle for about twenty seconds before each new use. This will eject stray particles before they can build up and cause serious damage. There is also a cappuccino cleaner available which can be used in the automatic frothing devices. The solution is placed in a reservoir, and a full cycle is run until the reservoir is emptied. This can be done every few weeks or every few months, depending upon use.
Aside from prevention, there are treatments for a clogged wand. First, remove the tip, if the tip is removable. Usually they are, as in the case of the plastic tips above. The holes are usually big enough to run a pin or even a small paperclip through (emphasize small) to remove the gunk. If these items are too large, do not attempt to use them; instead try using a thin gauge wire from an electrical wire strand. Next, the metal wand itself can have a pipe cleaner run up into it. Start out by putting just about a half inch of the pipe cleaner up the wand, rubbing it around, then pulling it out. Gradually work more of the pipe cleaner up the wand, but never let the length of pipe cleaner in the wand exceed the wand length. We recommend the pipe cleaners with the stiff barbs attached, as opposed to the mostly soft ones. Do the same for all of the hard hoses and connectors. With respect to rubber or soft plastic parts, rinse them in soapy hot water. If flexible hoses form holes, replacements are available (give us a call) or we've even had some luck at aquarium supply stores.
PLEASE NOTE: if you own the Jura X7 or the Froth Xpress Plus, the diameter of the tiny holes is very important. We recommend trying not to put pins into these holes. However, if they must be cleaned and soaking won't work, a smaller gauge wire, a single strand, should do the trick. Always use a strand that is smaller than the diameter of the hole.
Frothing wand technology is advancing at a breakneck speed, but along with these advances come serious precautionary measures for dealing with these very delicate mechanisms. Follow the steps above, and your machine should be producing full-fledged froth for its entire life.

May 26, 2008 | DeLonghi Esclusivo Magnifica ESAM3300...

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Not enough steam is produced to make good froth.


I have one too and what I do is: turn all 3 switches on and while I'm waiting for the "ready" light to come on I go ahead and pour the milk into my frothing pitcher and prep my espresso basket.
After the "ready" light comes on I install my espresso basket and turn the handle to the "left" so no liquid starts coming out.
Next, I take an empty coffee cup and hold it under the steam nozzle and start opening the steam valve until I get only steam instead of a stream of hot water. Once you have steam, close the valve, put your pitcher of milk under the steamer and froth as usual to around 150 degrees.

Jan 21, 2010 | Coffee Makers & Espresso Machines

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Not frothing milk


that means that the steamer is not generating enough pressure steam.

This happens either because there is not enough heat, or if you release the steam when pressure is not enough.

Very common problem with the american maid makers.

bear also in mind that Krups are not the best at frothing milk, and this is also a basic model.

If you want the best capuccino Coffee machine, buy the italian ones, Gaggia, Delonghi, Ariete etc. that are all great at this, or get a bigger Krups as a replacement like the Krups XP405040 that is also good at capuccino

May 09, 2009 | Krups XP7225 Espresso Machine

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Too much water coming out of steam wand


I worked at StarBucks, what we did was put water into a contaner and steam the water, a lot of the time why the steamer doesn'..t work as well is because it is clogged. Another way to do it is to just run your steamer, also go to a coffee store and buy expresso machine cleaner. It could just need a good cleaning.

Apr 16, 2009 | Breville ESP8XL Espresso Machine

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I have a Delonghi Magnifica Rialto EAM4500 coffee maker. Recently it has stopped frothing milk. Per delonghi I have replaced all of the gaskets that connect between the milk container and the unit. When we...


I purchased a unit second hand for my wife's birthday today. It's only 4 months old, got it home, tested it, same problem... No froth!

I've read all the posts here and all were very helpful troubleshooting guides however they did not solve the issue.

Understanding how the frothing mechanism functions is half the battle in figuring out the solution. It's a simple vacuum type system. No doubt you've read about checking the orings. This is definately the first thing to check however if this is not the reason then consider the following.

The larger of the white tubes that has the red and black oring inserts deep into its port on the tap. Why? It pushes steam past the milk pipe directly into the chrome frothing tube which causes a vacuum essentially drawing milk up it's hose creating the froth. What you can't see without further investigation is that on the underside of the tube centered between the red and black orings is a small hole. This hole is responsible for drawing the milk upwards. If this is blocked, and it probably is then no milk and no froth. Use a really small screwdriver to carefully clean the white tube both from the front and the little hole underneath.

So in conclusion. Any air leak between the red and black orings will prevent the vacuum required to draw milk up the tube and alternatively any blockage of the milk channel will also obviously prevent the flow into the frothing mechanism. Hope this helps.

Apr 09, 2009 | DeLonghi Coffee Makers & Espresso Machines

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New Rancilio Silva - steamed milk not perfect


please relay on your experience realizing that you now have new steam pipe(with different holes in the end of it and different pressure)
you will need to get use to them and get maximum quality of that steam pipe.
my advice:
  1. every time hold your hand in the bottom of milk container, so that you will prevent overheating which often gives the result you mentioned.
  2. every time you use cold milk.

Jul 22, 2008 | Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine

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Frothe the milk?


he trick to this is making sure you have steam comming out of the wand and not water. To do this, make sure you get the steam started before you begin. To get a light foam that will not deflate, hold the wand just under the surface of the milk. You should hear a steady, high pitched noise and you should not hear the splatter of bubbles popping on the surface. Popping noises mean that the wand is too high in the milk and your froth will not hold up. A low pitched noise from the cup means that the wand is too far down in the milk. This will heat your milk (for hot chocolate), but will not give you a good foam. Good luck!

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