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How to install second internal hard drive

The primary internal hard drive is hooked up to motherboard with sata cable and has no master/slave setting that i can see, the new hard drive will be hooked up with a eide cable , do i use the same eide cable that is already hooked up to the dvd drive ? and how do i set the jumper on the new internal hard drive?

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Yes, you can use, Please see label attached to the harddrive for a jumper setting to become primary harddrive.

in the DVD rom there's also a label on it. but the most common setting is slave is in the center.

C S M -

c-cable select
s-Slave
M- Master
the jumper is set to center to become a slave.


the hard drive is should be a master

connecting to the other end of the IDE cable.

HDD-should be a master
DVD rom-Should be a slave

Hope this help.

Posted on Feb 20, 2008

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1) External drive:
============
a) just power it up and connect it to the PC using an USB
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SCSI = pronounce scuzzi, no longer common.

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While the end connectors are the same, only 40 conductors,
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use the 80 conductor, but there is no harm done using
the 80. If the ribbon cable came with the optical dive,
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port, BUT

Never use a 40 conductor ribbon cable if it is shared between
the optical and the hard drive, because this will slow down
the hard drive to the lower UDMA speed.

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1) Each PATA=IDE port can only handle one master/ slave pair.

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jumpers near the IDE connector to determine if they
act as a MASTER or a SLAVE. This should be set before
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MASTER this forces the drive to act as a MASTER
SLAVE this forces the drive to act as a SLAVE

CABLE SELECT special color coded ribbon cables
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The blue connector at the far end of the cable, away from
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When connecting the ribbon cable to the IDE drive, make sure
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connector. On the mother board, the marked of the ribbon
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to only fit one way, but don't count on it.

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the boot device setup in the bios, if you set atapi-cd rom as first boot device. then hdd second. and fdd last.
it appears that you have a faulty connection from the IDE ( 40-80 wire cable ) that runs from the motherboard Primary/secondary slot. check the cable goes from motherboard to hard-drive and is connected firmly, also check the jumper blocks ( small white plastic block ) is set to master or slave on both devices ( cd-hard-drive ) if both on same cable set hard-drive to slave and CD rom to master. if they are both set as master or slave, they will conflict with each other.
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