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Eljer Flushmate Floor Mount Floor Discharge 1.6gpf rim impaction

Hello,
1. the mineral impaction must be extreme inside the rim conduits, both sides.
2. i removed the tank to access the bowl's inlet plenum and attempted to lance the rim mineral impaction on both sides (symmetrical ducts and outlet ports).
3. the rim delivery conduits are rather small and the coat hanger tip got only about 8 inches maximum penetration, i think because of the meandering passageway designed. i rotated the wire while plunging and got deeper penetration but eventually hit extremely stubborn stops.
4. i need a motorized rotational flex snake of compatible diameter to clear the mineral deposits, else the eljer bowl is history.
5. what say you experts on this ? is the eljer worth unclogging ? it's in tip top condition. a surgical camera probe snake would definitely clarify the reality i'm up against.
thanks in advance,
curtis

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  • hewo Feb 03, 2010

    hello,
    1. i have already failed approaching this rim impaction problem from the downstream orifices using a guitar string (.054") and also using a syringe to inject mineral solvent.
    2. i'm the second owner just moved in. 1st owner upgraded gravity flush to eljer flushmate.
    3. during pressurized flushmate discharge, there is slight weepage from the farthest orifice on one side only.
    4. the porcelain ducts inlaid for the rim by eljer may in fact be poorly designed and/or poorly fabricated during factory mass production. inspection of the bowl's visible inlet plenum shows interior forming defects, as opposed to the perfection exterior that is never hidden. the design of the diameters used for rim orifices and delivery ducts is the invitation for impaction. while true jetting velocities will be greater with smaller diameters, the tendency for mineral nucleation increases as diameter decreases because of the enhanced surface tension between the water and the porcelain in a skinnier duct.
    5. i have requested eljer provide the cross section drawing of these delivery ducts and lateral orifices because it appears these passages restrict "micro-snaking" owing to tortuous delivery curves.
    6. lastly, i have not cleaned the bowl because it is sparkling clean, not even a trace of waterline ring, same with the bath tub. this does indicate to me that minerals are scant in the home water. confusingly, the rim jets are clogged and i have yet observed any loosened minerals ejected while i lanced the ducts. very strange.

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Try putting KLR or even vinegar down the tubes. also using a stiff brush and klr or vinegar, scrub the jets from inside the bowl to help remove and soften it up. your coat hanger may only be compounding the problem by packing it in harder and tighter. when you get it running again, and it is a good one, make sure and put a bowl cleaner that also softens the water. can't say brand names..... but there are several good ones.

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