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My 6000i flashes No Engine Data

My 6000i flashes "NO ENGINE DATA" . Also no data are displayed on gauges screen. I suspect the Gateway or a wireing problem. Ideas ?
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I researched my problem on the web, found several posts on various forums that helped. Bottom line, I determined that my 6000i installation did not include a gateway. I did that by eye balling the system after removing some panels.

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Temp guage not working 1999 alero


One advantage us dealer tech's have over a week end warrior is that we have factory service repair information and have factory scan tool ,Tech 2 , to check data coming into the instrument cluster . Most of you probably don't even think about how that coolant temp infor shows up on the gauge , except by a coolant sensor !

High Temperature Indicator
The high temperature Indicator function handles the control of the Engine Temperature Gauge Display and the red High Temperature indicator. The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) reads the Coolant Temperature Sensor, filters the messages, and sends the coolant temperature to the instrument cluster via a Class 2 serial data message. The PCM monitors the coolant sensor in order to determine a fault. The PCM transmits the Class 2 serial data coolant temperature report messages to the instrument cluster for the temperature gauge display and for the high temperature indicator control.
The instrument cluster receives the engine temperature data in the Class 2 serial data message from the PCM. The instrument cluster converts this data into a temperature gauge pointer position which drives the gauge pointer. The instrument cluster also uses this data in order to determine the high temperature indicator control.
The Body Control Module (BCM) looks for the high temperature indicator Class 2 serial data report from the instrument cluster and triggers a chime when the indicator is ON.

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop , rather then just replacing parts .

Feb 10, 2017 | 1999 Oldsmobile Alero

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I have a 2010 Chevy impala LS instrument cluster and it has a 20 pin plug I'm trying to figure out which wire's on the back of the cluster are for the speed sensor, rpm, gas, and temp wires.


Boy your way off base . All the gauges are inputs from the ECM - engine computer . The VSS - vehicle speed sensor , ETC - engine coolant temp sensor , sending unit in the fuel tank , All this sensors input the engine computer . The PCM then sends this info on the GMLAN serial data bus ,communications network . The Instrument cluster has a microprocessor inside that translates this info an controls the gauges. You probably have an instrument cluster problem or a communication network problem . Your best bet is to take your vehicle to the dealer or some other qualified repair shop. Need to have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes.
Indicators and Warning Messages
Refer to Indicator/Warning Message Description and Operation.
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The IPC receives the coolant temperature information via serial data message from the body control module (BCM). The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 60?°C (140?°F) or below if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.
Fuel Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the fuel level percent. The body control module (BCM) sends the fuel level information from the ECM to the IPC via a serial data message indicating the fuel level percent. The fuel gage defaults to empty if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.
When the fuel level is less than a pre-determined value, the low fuel indicator illuminates in the IPC.
Odometer
The vehicle odometer is calculated and stored electronically in the instrument panel cluster (IPC). The IPC contains a season odometer and trip odometer A or B. Momentarily press the trip/fuel button in order to toggle between the season odometer and the trip odometer. Press the set/reset button for greater than 0.25 seconds, while the trip odometer is displayed, in order to reset the trip odometer. The IPC displays the vehicle mileage and trip mileage as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC calculates the mileage based on the serial data vehicle speed information from the ECM. The odometer will display 'error' if an internal IPC memory failure is detected. The odometer displays either miles or kilometers and can be set through the customization menu in the driver information center (DIC).
PRNDL Display
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the selected gear position as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the gear position. The PRNDL display blanks if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the transmission range switch circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the body control module (BCM).
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC calculates the mileage based on serial data vehicle speed information from the ECM. The IPC receives vehicle speed information from the body control module (BCM) via a serial data message. The speedometer defaults to 0 km/h (0 mph) if the IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM or BCM.
Tachometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine speed as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the engine speed. The IPC receives the engine speed information from the body control module (BCM) via a serial data message. The tachometer will default to 0 RPM if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the engine speed sensor circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.

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May 14, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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While driving antitheft light comes on and all the gauges go flat,car keeps runnig,want to disable system,not sure what to look for


Before doing something drastic ,have it checked out for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes . It may not be the anti-theft system ,gauges going flat would be more like a communication problem between modules . PCM / BCM / instrument cluster etc.. That also could cause theft light coming on . If your not sure what to look for ,take it to a ASE certified professional . You may render your vehicle useless if you don't know what your doing .
Serial Data Power Mode Master
On vehicles that have several control modules connected by serial data circuits, one module is the power mode master (PMM). On this vehicle, the PMM is the body control module (BCM). The PMM receives 3 discrete ignition switch signals to differentiate which power mode will be sent over the Serial Data circuits. The 3-wire Ignition Switch table below illustrates the state of these inputs in correspondence to the ignition switch position:
Serial Data Messages The modules that depend exclusively on serial data messages for power modes. stay in the state dictated by the last valid PMM message until they can check for the engine run flag status on the serial data circuits. If the PMM fails, the modules monitor the serial data circuit for the engine run flag serial data. If the engine run flag serial data is True, indicating that the engine is running, the modules fail-safe to RUN. In this state, the modules and their subsystems can support all operator requirements. If the engine run flag serial data is False, indicating that the engine is not running, the modules fail-safe to OFF-AWAKE. In this state, the modules are constantly checking for a change status message on the serial data circuits and can respond to both local inputs and serial data inputs from other modules on the vehicle.
Indicators and Warning Messages
Refer to Indicator/Warning Message Description and Operation .
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the PCM/ECM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 38?°C (100?°F) if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

Fuel Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the body control module (BCM) indicating the fuel level. The fuel gage defaults to E (empty) if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

When the fuel level is less than 14 percent, the low fuel indicator illuminates.
Odometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) contains a season odometer and a trip odometer. Momentarily press the trip/reset switch in order to toggle between the season odometer and the trip odometer. Press the trip/reset switch for greater than 2 seconds, while the trip odometer is displayed, in order to reset the trip odometer. The odometer is calculated and stored electronically in the body control module (BCM). The BCM uses the vehicle speed information from the powertrain control module (PCM) to calculate the odometer. The odometer displays 'error' if an internal IPC memory failure is detected. The IPC stores a backup copy of the odometer value incase the IPC stops receiving a valid odometer value from the BCM.
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed based on the information from the ECM/PCM. The IPC receives the vehicle speed information from the BCM via the serial data circuit. The speedometer defaults to 0 kmh (0 mph) when the following occurs:
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The powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM) detects a malfunction in the vehicle speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

Tachometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine speed as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the body control module (BCM) indicating the engine speed. The tachometer will default to 0 RPM if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

Apr 07, 2016 | 2006 Pontiac G6

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Looking for wire for heater gage temperature


Depending on the year there isn't any . All done by computer on serial data bus communication network. The coolant temp. is supplied to the engine computer By a ETC - engine coolant temp sensor . All the modules on the vehicle ( ABS , air bags , BCM , instrument cluster , RKE module etc... ) Share info on this data bus network . If the gauge isn't working probably bad ,If a communication network problem the gauge will default to fixed temp degree . This is for a 1999 Buick , out of factory service repair manual . But all vehicles are pretty much the same .
Engine Coolant Temperature Gauge
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) via the class II serial data line to the instrument cluster, broadcasts the coolant temperature. The instrument cluster compares the temperature data using a 16 point look-up table in order to determine the needle deflection. A smooth filter is used in order to secure a continuous response. The instrument cluster drives the temperature gauge to C (cold) under the following conditions:
• The temperature data is lost.
• The PCM is in a state of health fault.

Mar 09, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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I have a 2002 bravada and when I was driving I turned radio off and now I have no windows,radio,locks,fuel gauge,oil gauge.checked fueses and they were ok,any suggestions?


Does it start an run ? Your best bet is to take it to a ASE certified repair shop ! All the things not working are controlled by the BCM body control module an are on the class 2 serial data bus , would be best to have hooked up to a factory scan tool to see if there are any DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes stored . The instrument cluster gauge information comes from the PCM / ECM - engine computer over class 2 data bus .
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the fuel level percent. The fuel gage defaults to empty if:
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine oil pressure as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the engine oil pressure. The engine oil pressure gage defaults to 0 psi (0 kPa) or below if:
The Body Control Module (BCM) performs multiple body control functions. The BCM can control devices directly connected to its outputs based on input information. The BCM evaluates this information and controls certain body control systems by commanding outputs on or off. The BCM control inputs can be:
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Sensors and switches that are directly connected to the BCM


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Class 2 serial data received from other control modules connected to the class 2 serial data link.

The BCM is also capable of controlling other vehicle systems that are not directly wired to the BCM. The BCM does this by sending specific messages on the class 2 serial data link. The control module capable of performing the required function will respond to the BCM message.
You best bet is to take it the dealer or a ASE certified repair shop !

Jan 03, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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I have a 04 tahoe and at times when i turn the ignition on the gauges don't move and when I'm driving they will jump on and off can someone explain this


If it is all the gauges , I would pull the instrument cluster an check the connections on the back of the instrument cluster . I would also check power an grounds , you would need to find a pin out chat to do this. If you don't know what that is , It's just a diagram of the connector show what each terminal is for ! Also do a wiggle test on the wiring ! Do the dash lights do the same thing ?

All the gauge settings are information determined by the PCM - engine computer , the info is sent to the instrument cluster by a serial data communication network !
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed on the analog speedometer based on the vehicle speed signal from the powertrain control module (PCM). The PCM converts the data from the vehicle speed sensor to a 4,000 pulses/mile signal. The IPC uses the vehicle speed signal circuit from the PCM in order to calculate the vehicle speed.
The speedometer defaults to 0 km/h (0 mph) if a malfunction in the vehicle speed signal circuit exists.
Tachometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine speed on the analog tachometer based on the engine speed signal from the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC uses the engine speed signal circuit -- 2 pulses/engine revolution -- from the PCM in order to calculate the engine speed.
The tachometer defaults to 0 RPM if a malfunction in the engine speed signal circuit exists
Voltmeter
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the system voltage as determined by the body control module (BCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the BCM indicating the battery voltage. When the engine is ON, the gage should be between 10-16 volts.
PRNDL Display
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the selected gear position as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the gear position. The PRNDL display blanks if:
Fuel Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the fuel level percent. The fuel gage defaults to empty if:
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 75?°C (160?°F) or below when:
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The PCM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communication with the PCM.


The data link connector (DLC) allows a scan tool to communicate with the class 2 serial data line. The serial data line is the means by which the microprocessor-controlled modules in the vehicle communicate with each other. Once the scan tool is connected to the class 2 serial data line through the DLC, the scan tool can be used to monitor each module for diagnostic purposes and to check for diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs). Class 2 serial data is transmitted on a single wire at an average of 10.4 kbps. This value is an average, class 2 uses a variable pulse width modulation to carry data and depending on the message it may operate faster or slower. The bus will float at a nominal 7.0 volts during normal operation. Each module can pull this lower during the transmission. The bus is not at battery positive voltage or ground potential during normal operation. When the ignition switch is in RUN, each module communicating on the class 2 serial data line sends a state of health (SOH) message every 2 seconds to ensure that the module is operating properly. When a module stops communicating on the class 2 serial data line, for example if the module loses power or ground, the SOH message it normally sends on the data line every 2 seconds disappears. Other modules on the class 2 serial data line, which expect to receive that SOH message, detect its absence; those modules in turn set an internal DTC associated with the loss of SOH of the non-communicating module. The DTC is unique to the module which is not communicating, for example, when the inflatable restraint sensing and diagnostic module (SDM) SOH message disappears, several modules set DTC U1088. Note that a loss of serial data DTC does not normally represent a failure of the module that set it.
You may want to take this to a ASE certified repair shop or " oh no " The Chevy dealer ! I don't know why people dislike the dealer so much . I worked at one for a number of years an we had a good bunch of technicians ! No body knows your GM vehicle better !

Aug 31, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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Oil pressure is 60 psi with engine not running, jumps to 80 when engine starts


so where your eyes look at to see 60, ?
the dash?
or a real gauge , at the block, port. (gallery)

you must learn 2 things, about dash gauges
  1. they are not really instruments. not even close, more toy like.
  2. and some return to zero others do NOT.
many cars made, you key off and the gauges, freeze.
this is nothing new and is normal.

use the scan tool yet and look for DTC errors from the cluster?
in any event.
id concerned about engine oil pressure , try a real gauge.
if concerned about just the dash gunge?, then scan it first. then do the self tests shown in the FSM.

this car the PCM sense oil pressure data via the PCI bus
to the cluster and then it displays this data.
im not sure which years return to zero.
the PCM gets its DATA from the oil pressure sender.
if the pCM shows the data to bee good using a scan tool
then we check for errors on the PCI buss. if that is good
the display is bad, if the data is wrong. there.

here is the path of data. in text
sender>>> pcm>>> pci bus>>>> cluster.>>> gauge.

see the FSM page , 1 or 9 pages just for the cluster. page 7

factory service manual or alldata.com
either.

Oct 02, 2014 | 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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I have a Northstar 6000i that will not display the tide track information. It has for 3 years,and now has a message stating that it can't display the information for the current date.


Probably the data didn't go past 2010. I have a Northstar 951XD, and first time out this year, no more tide track data - my manual says it only went fron 1994 - 2010. So how to get updates?

May 15, 2011 | Northstar 6000I GPS Receiver

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2002 Liberty Fuel Gauge Not Working


It may be possible to get instrument cluster to do a self-test? If you want to try this to rule out instrument cluster.
Press and hold odometer reset button, turn key from off to run, run is where the dash lites come on. Any stored 3-digit codes will be displayed in the odometer vf display. The vf display will perform a sequential segment test. All indicators, data controlled, will illuminate. All gauges will cycle in 12.5% or 15% increments. The cluster will automatically exit self-test. The self test does not verify serial data stream. The cluster internally commands all non-hardwired gauges and indicators to operate. The fuel level sending unit sends info to pcm then pcm sends data to instrument cluster.
I don't know if that self-test will work on your vehicle? It won't hurt to try. If all the gages cycle except fuel gage, then I suspect the instrument cluster. You can call around different shops, get an estimate for the repair.

Jun 11, 2017 | 2002 Jeep Liberty

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No guage screen on my garmin 4208


Need more info:

Is your Garmin hooked up to your engine's computer via an NMEA 2000 data cable?

The gauge option will not appear in the menu if the GPS does not recognise the data coming from your engine. (If you turn on the GPS simulator, you should see the gauges on that screen.)

There are 3 possible reasons that the gauges do not appear in the menu:

1) improper wiring between engine and gauges.

2) GPS has not been set up to receive data in the GPS's NMEA setup menu.

3) Engine has not been set up to send NMEA data.

This is a relatively new feature that only works on newer engines that are NMEA 2000 capable, such as Volvo and Evinrude Etec.  The engines usually need an optional instrument package to make use of the NMEA 2000 system.

We're just scratching the surface here, please reply with any questions.

Oct 22, 2007 | Garmin GPSMAP 4208 GPS Receiver

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