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Posted on Jan 26, 2010

Possible faulty SAM system for rear lights

I drive a Mercedes c180 2003, each time I pump the brake pedal, a warning comes up on my dashboard to say the L Brake Light is faulty. The bulb is fine and when I take it out and put it back everything is fine until I press the pedal again? Is this a faulty SAM Unit?

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Not a faulty rear sam more likely a poor bulb holder clean the area that the bulb sits in

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