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Anonymous Posted on Jan 13, 2010

When it goes into descaling mode water runs all

What is descaling? How do I keep the water from going all over my counter when it is descaling?

  • Anonymous Jan 13, 2010

    We never know when it's in the descaling cycle until there is water all over. I turned it on this morning to warm the water and when I went back to the kitchen from my office, water was everywhere.

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Descaling is like self cleaning... deposits from water dont fill it so full when its in that cycle

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Why won't descaling light go off?

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A switch contact problem could cause flaky behavior in other functions using the same switch positions. If that is consistent with what you are seeing, the switch needs to be serviced. This requires disassembly to get at the control board. This should be done at a static-safe electronic service bench - remove the water tank and other food-related parts and put them in a clean bag or closed container before this is done. (Whatever you do, don't spray contact cleaner in the kitchen. That stuff doesn't belong around food, period.) Once the switch has been cleaned or replaced, and the machine reassembled, it should be OK to use; just clean using the standard procedure.

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1. Fill the water tank with the Saeco descaling solution. (1 bottle of Saeco descaling solution to one full tank of water.)
2. Turn on the machine. Run approximately 1 cup through the steam wand by turning open the hot water steam valve). Turn machine off and let sit for 5 minutes.
4. Repeat this procedure until the water tank is empty. Then rinse water tank thoroughly and flush the machine by running two tanks of clear water through the steam wand.
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1. Add a descaling solution into the water reservoir. Mix thoroughly to dissolve (use warm water for better results).
2. Remove the filter holder and place a cup under the group head and another cup, or other container, under the steam wand to catch cleaning solution.
3. Turn espresso machine on, turn coffee pump on and run approximately 8 oz. of solution through the brew head. Turn machine off and let the machine sit for 15 minutes.
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