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A question about the feeder

Hi Checkitright,

Thank you for accepting me as your buddy!

After I saw your advice on the Toshiba Document Feeder, I guss you must be the expert to answer my question.

I don't know a lot about the technical details about the copy machine although I'm an electrical engineer trying to build a product sorter. So here comes my question:

The project is a automatic cutting and sorting machine. A continues strip of material is fed through an automatic cutter, which cuts it into sections in predetermined length (typically quarter inch by 3 inch). The piece then falls from the cutter and into one of 20 containers in a raw. Before the cutter makes the next cut, the containers are shifted by one unit-length such that the next piece will fall in to the next waiting container. The system repeats itself automatically and after each run the 20 containers will have one piece of material each.

A document sorter seems to me to be a good replacemnt to a custom made moving mechanism. If (1)the sorter can work/move horizontally without the existance of a copy machine and (2) there are simple ways (like hooking up two wires to a press button or providing a TTL signal) of letting the sorter moving 1 step at a time in either direction, I think this plan is feasible.

Is a typical sorter able to to that job? Or, based on your extensive experience on so many brands, sorters from a certain brand can fit the bill?

Please let me know if more information is needed.

PS. I have created a question in the Fixya forum and thought you might think that's more efficient way for communication. (http://www.fixya.com/support/t381923-feeder_work_without_copier)

Thanks!
mingliu

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  • mingliu Feb 04, 2008

    Hi Checkitright,



    Thanks for the comments!



    I think the sorter plan is worth trying because the alternative plan is a complete design of belt-driven cluster of small containers, from ground up!



    The sorter can even be left upright (don't lay in horizontal) and the cut pieces can be redirected to enter from its side (some modification on the bins may be necessary).



    In your post for the Toshiba sorter, you said "on the board there are two push buttons, one to make the bins go up and one to go down". Is it common on most sorters? It would be fairly easy to control the movement by hooking up wires to the buttons.



    Since a second hand sorter (or a copier with sorter) is inexpensive, it's not that difficult to try it out (if I know which brand/model to get).



    Looking forward to hearing your feedback!



    mingliu

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Thank you for the complement and for trying to help with your project.

Can a sorter be used ?
Let's see: it seems that you are planning on modifying it to fit your needs.
-changing the bins to container type.
-moving them horizontally

The bins in the sorter are on two cams on each side of the machine that are syncronized.
each bin has a protruding pin on each side that goes into the cams to move it up and down.
sorters were made for vertical movement, to take apart and lay it horizontal.............................

I'm having a difficult time seeing the way you would do all of these without having to re-design the whole system.
as for the electrical part I'm sure if you have the schematics you could by pass and make a board to simulate the signals you need to make it work.

The idea is good, but unless you are willing to re-engineer the whole thing I can't see how it would be more beneficial to you.

Give me a feedback and we'll explore more options.
TNX

Posted on Feb 04, 2008

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    CheckitRight Feb 04, 2008

    Yes, most sorters have a dip switch and a set of push buttons on the sorter board, for the service mode.

    But, the sorters are still attached to the copiers, just apart. there is constant communication between the sorter and copier to "see" what state it's in, which is why you need to adjust the dip switches, ( Canon & Toshiba ) the two I'm more familiar with do have them.

    If you do buy a copier or/and sorter you must get the "service book and hand book" which gives you the all the electrical and mechanical functions.



    Before you buy take off the metal plate that hides the board, look at it, there should be a 4-8 pin dip switch. and two push button switches.

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