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Threading my bobbin and correct tension

I just received a very old hand me down sewing machine. I can thread the machine, but I am having problems with threading the bobbin properly and setting the tension. I have the owners manual, but it refers to the instructions in the small envelope included in the box of accessories. I don't have this. It says it shows the proper way to thread the bobbin and the bobbin case. Can someone help please?

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    Kenmore 117-959



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  • Anonymous Mar 29, 2014

    I need diagram to show me how to properly thread this fine old machine. It is in fine shape and has all original accessories and unblemished finish.

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If you go to this link, it shows for the 117.591 model, but it is threaded the same exact way as the 117.959, that will thread the machine and bobbin, I have used this to thread my machine which is the 117.959, and it sewed perfectly until I started messing with the tension, I still haven't figured that part out yet, but I will and when I do, I will let you know. You should be able to thread the bobbin correctly with the manual, if you are pulling the bobbin through the hole the needle is going down in, your bobbin is threaded correctly, if the problem is like mine, your not making stitches, the problem is with the tension. I hope I have helped and if not, sorry.
http://sewusa.com/Threading_Diagrams/Threading_Pages/Kenmore_Sewing_Machine_Threading/kenmore_117591_threading_diagram.htm

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Hello, Pat -

Which thread on your sewing machine are you referring to? With either the top thread or the bottom (bobbin) thread, the problem is most likely due to the tension.

Another reason for the top thread breaking could because the machine is not threaded correctly.

If you have the owner's manual for your sewing machine, check it for the settings for the top thread tension and for the correct threading. Also, check the manual for information on the bobbin (bottom) tension.

This web page gives some generic information on sewing machine tensions:
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Another option is that you are using old cotton thread to sew with. Over time cotton thread deteriorates and breaks easily. I only know this from personal experience. :)

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Bring the bobbin thread to the top of the fabric (manually with the handwheel). Then gently hold both thread tails in your left hand while you begin to slowly take the first couple of stitches.

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How to Fix Code E2 on Singer Fashion Mate Sewing Machine 7256 eHow

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The Singer 7256 Fashion Mate sewing machine has a top drop-in thread bobbin and an automatic needle threader. The digital display on the side of the machine is used to select different stitch settings on the machine. When the display reads error code E2, it means that there is a bobbing threading error, which may be caused by the thread looping or bunching under the fabric as you sew.

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  • Never turn the hand-wheel on the sewing machine away from you, as it will change the timing on the sewing machine.
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