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Air is blowing out the pilot, gas wall heater

Gas wall heater, vents outside, air keeps coming into the unit and blowing out the flame, how do I keep the air from getting into the unit

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  • jayharmon2 Dec 12, 2009

    its a brand new unit, it vents outside, but air is coming in through the outside vent duct, and blowing out the pilot, why is that happening

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    Leroy Elliott May 11, 2010

    You are flirting with danger, this is 2009, replace it with an elecric unit

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Look in your yellow pages and call in a GAS FITTER to look at the unit.

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