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Bypass doser malfunctions

When I grind my espresso, the machine works fine. When I use the bypass doser (pre ground coffee), however, the machine starts its cycle but ends by spewing the unused, dry grounds into the bin and no water/coffee in my cup. What gives?

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Re: bypass doser malfunctions

Happens when the preground coffee is not ground fine enough, you may have to put the pre ground coffee in a manual coffee grinder to make it finer. The machine is not really designed to brew regular coffee grounds.

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Re: bypass doser malfunctions

Iam looking in my saeco vienna manuel on page 30 section 5.1 it say warning the grinder adjustment knob inside the coffeecontainer must be turn only while the coffee grinderis operating do not introduce ground and or freeze-dried coffee in the coffee bean container i guest it the same thing for a magic hope it help take care cheers

Posted on Jan 20, 2008

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