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Pilot will no stay lighted consequently the main burner will not remain lighted either unless the knob is continually depressed. To alleviate this, I light the burner keeping the knob depressed and at the same time applying tape to hold it down. I am not sure this is a safe method of operation. However, it looks like a problem inherent with this type appliance. It would appear a class action lawsuit would bring relief to all of us who fail to get relief from the manufacturer or at least assistance. Clint B

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Hi, Not knowing the nature of the Law suit, I can tell you about taping down the knob on this valve is dangerous.If the pilot will not stay lit, you must make sure the thermocouple which is located next to pilot flame with the longated bulb on it and screws into the gas valve is tight. Tight at the valve and in the flame. If it continues to go out when you release the knob after holding it down, you must replace it.This is what generates milivolts to keep it lit, and then allows you to turn the valve to on to fire the burners.You can unscrew this at the valve and pull it back out of its mount.By at any hardware store, under $5.00 dollars and replace it. This will indeed solve this problem. As safety to you and you're family, please remove the tape asap. Sincerely,
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PS Good Luck With you're action.

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First of all, calm down. This type of problem is typical of many gas appliances.

Are you running propane or natural gas?

Make sure the pilot port is clear of dirt and flows clear. The pilot orifice is tiny, and do not drill it out or anything. Just make sure it's clear.

After you do that, look to see if there is a gas adjustment on the main valve for the pilot flame. It is usually located under a screw on the valve, and the adjustment is actually a screw itself.

Low gas pressure can cause this problem, best seen by watching the pilot flame as the main burner lights. If the pilot flame goes down with main burner light, then it's a gas pressure problem.

If the pilot flame sufficiently covers the thermocouple under all operating conditions, chances are the thermocouple needs replacement (purchased at plumbing supplies or hardware stores.).

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