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The pilot works, but not the burners - Vanguard International Infra Red - Medium Infra-Red Mid-Size Heater

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  • cbarron296 Dec 10, 2009

    where's the thermostat
    does this have anything to do with the remote


  • cbarron296 Dec 10, 2009

    and which one is the gas valve
    also, the pilot light is strong, so it has nothing to do with the gas pressure does it?


  • cbarron296 Dec 10, 2009

    pilot light works, but burners don't. what should id do

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Your problem dated 10the Dec 09 was re-posted today. If it has been already resolved, kindly ignore this message.

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Hi, Is this a Propane Heater? If yes, You need to Check and if Faulty, Replace Thermocouple. This is a Common Problem on Vanguard Heaters. Hope i helped you. Thanks for using ' Fixya ' and have a nice day!!

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That tell me that you have either a bad thermostat or a bad gas valve. There are very few parts in your heater and no gas to the burners after your pilot is lit and stays lit says that either the thermostat is not reading the temp correctly or the gas valve is not opening once the thermostat is calling for heat.
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This being a gas appliance, I'm afraid to try and tell you how to bypass one part so to find out if it's the other part that's bad. Donig this is dangerus and could get you hurt. I do it all the time so it's nothing but I could also get hurt doing it if I didn't know exactly what to do and just when to do it. So sorry I can't tell you anymore than what two parts it could be. Good luck.

Posted on Dec 10, 2009

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    James Hilton Dec 10, 2009

    I see that you asked about the remote.

    I don't think this would have anything to do with it. Can you turn the heat setting up manually on the heater? If so and it still didn't come on. The remote will have nothing to do with it. But if it does, then replace the batteries in the remote.

    As far as what you need to do.

    If you want to try and repair it yourself. The most common part to fail on one of these is the gas valve. I would either replace it or have a service tech come out and repair it. If you replace the valve and it ends up being the thermostat. By the time you buy it also, you would have spent about the same amount as if you called a service tech in the first place. It's a gamble. But I would figure that it was the gas valve if I were called out to repair it. Only thing is, I would check it before I replace it and I feel sure that any tech you called would.

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    If you do repair it yourself. Please make sure when your finished replacing the valve to check it for leaks with thick soap solution before you try to light it. I'm sure you already know this, I just want to remind you. I would hate to have something to do with someone getting hurt. Good luck.

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    James Hilton Dec 10, 2009

    The gas valve is the first valve that the gas supply goes into. It's the largest valve on the unit. I hope this helps.

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RHFE Rinnai 551FT gas heater is not working after 7 years


see this steps and fix it. God bless you
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If there is no heat, check the electrical service panel for a burned fuse or tripped breaker. Relight the pilot light (see below).
If there is not enough heat, adjust the burner air shutter (see below); and clean the burner ports (see below).
If the pilot light does not light or does not stay lit, clean the pilot orifice carefully with a toothpick, test the thermocouple and replace it if it is faulty (see below).
If the flame flickers, adjust the pilot (see below).
If there is an exploding sound when the burner ignites, adjust the pilot to a higher setting and clean the pilot orifice and the burner ports.
If the burner takes more than a few seconds to ignite, clean the pilot orifice and adjust the pilot light.
If the burner flame is uneven, clean the burner ports. If the burner flame is very yellow, clean the burner; open vents in the furnace room to provide more air; adjust the burner air shutter.
To light the pilot on a standing-pilot (always on) ignition system, follow the lighting instructions located near the control. Otherwise, try these steps:
Light the pilot:
  1. gasfurnace1.jpg Press and hold the pilot control knob to start the pilot. Set the control knob to the pilot position. Hold a long match under the pilot gas port.
  2. Press the control knob; the pilot should light. Hold the control knob down until the flame is burning brightly (about 30 seconds). Release pressure on the knob, and turn it to the on position.
  3. If the pilot goes out when you release the control knob, try relighting, holding the control knob down longer. If the pilot again goes out, check the thermocouple (below).
Adjust the pilot:
  1. Remove any cap covering the pilot adjusting screw on a combination control.
  2. Turn the adjusting screw counterclockwise to increase the flame or clockwise to decrease it. It is correctly adjusted when the flame envelops the thermocouple bulb by 1/2 inch and appears dark blue with a small yellow tip.
Test and replace a thermocouple:
  1. Hold the control knob to pilot and light the pilot as above.
  2. Unscrew the thermocouple fitting with an open-ended wrench.
  3. Set a multimeter to the DVC (lowest voltage) scale.
  4. Clip one multimeter lead to the end of the thermocouple tube nearest the pilot and the other lead to the fitting on the other end of the tube.
  5. If the multimeter shows a reading besides zero, the thermocouple is functioning. Replace the thermocouple tube.
  6. If there is no reading, you will need to clean or replace the thermocouple following steps 7 through 11.
  7. Release the control knob and shut off the main gas valve on the gas-supply pipe that leads into the burner. Shut off power to the burner at the electrical service panel .
  8. Remove the thermocouple from its mounting bracket.
  9. Wipe the combination control clean and install a new thermocouple, tightening it by hand, then give it a one-quarter turn with a wrench.
  10. Insert the thermocouple into the pilot bracket, being careful to not crimp the tubing.
  11. Turn on power to the furnace and relight the pilot (above).
Adjust an adjustable burner air shutter:
  1. Set the thermostat to its highest setting to keep the burner running. Once the furnace has heated up, remove the burner access panel and loosen the locking screw.
  2. Open the shutter by turning it to the right until the blue base of the flame appears to lift slightly from the burner port surface. Then close the shutter until the flame reseats itself on the surface.
Clean removable burner tubes and ports:
  1. Shut off gas and power to the furnace.
  2. Unscrew or loosen and remove the tubes from the supporting bracket.
  3. Carefully clean the tubes with a brush or vacuum, making sure not to damage the burner ports.
  4. Use a stiff wire to clear any debris from clogged ports.

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I have a Hardwick propane stove, 4 burners and oven. The stovetop burners work fine (need a match), but now the oven does not ignite despite the pilot light working fine. I have brushed the pilot light...


Hello Patrick,

WHen you turn on the oven/broiler does the size of the polot ligh increase in size??
the way it is suppose to work is...thier a small free standing polot light and when ya turn on the oven the size of the pilot is suppose to increase and heat a little bulb that is connected to a wire that is mounted to the pilot burner and when that bulb heats up it will allow the main gas to flow into the oven(not pilot burner).

If the size of the pilot does not increase it could be caused by a clogged pilot burner. the way to determine that is TURN OFF GAS SUPPLY...disconnect gas line from pilot burner and turn on gas to unit, light that tube with it disconnected from pilot burner and turn oven on and see if size of flame drastically increases...if it does turn gas off and remove and replace pilot burner
if flame sizedoes not increase the problem is going to be the thermostat

If the pilot does increase and heats the bulb on the pilot burner the problem will be with the gas valve that,that bulb in the pilot burner accathes to is bad .

now chances of the thersostat still being available is very slim if the pilot burner is clogged and needs replaced they are still available their is 2 of them one has the mounting plate on the left and one is on the right.
here is what they look like

oldtech2332_148.jpgPart number for this one is 1898-021 notice how the mounting tab is on the right

oldtech2332_149.jpgthis one is pt# 1898-022 the tab is on the left

That when performing a quick search on google is pretty much all that still available teh thermostat (would need model number) is doubtful to find also a good chance the gas valve is also no longer available

Good luck,
GENE

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Hello,
Your right side burners probably have small vertical lighting holes that are clogged where the pilot lights the burner. Use a sewing needle to poke each hole clean. While you're at it, poke clean the horizontal burner holes just to make sure they are not clogged either. Are there also little tunnels from the burners to each pilot flame? Make sure those are clean inside and attached properly on each end. The pilot flame should be approx 3/8" tall. Compare the working pilot flame to the non-working pilot flames and adjust as necessary. Each pilot has a small aluminum tubing running to it, the adjustment screw will be on this tube. You'll just need a small flat head screw driver to turn it counter-clockwise to increase flame. Hope this helps. Let us know if we can be of further assistance. Douglas

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The thermocouple is the pilot's, well, co-pilot! It is the electronic device that senses if the pilot flame is hot enough to sustain burning the gas fuel from the burner. If the thermocouple thinks it's safe, then it keeps open the main gas valve located in the pilot assembly. If the thermocouple does not sense enough heat from the pilot flame (such as when the pilot is out), then the thermocouple shuts off the gas valve to the burners.
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