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Swooshing sound in oven when burner ignites

When the oven lights, there is a swooshing sound while the burner is ignited. The valve that lets gas into the burner, lets gas in whether the burner is on or not. Where the air shutter, is a flame will appear, and stay even after the oven is turned off. The valve has two wires on it and one reads 115VAC even when oven is off. The swooshing noise is only when burner is ignited and flame is present in the air shutter.
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Very good Robert She may get blown up Thanks

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This is a common issue if the flame runner is not working properly. The ignitor is probably working fine. The flame runner directs gas into the ignitor where it ignites. the flame is then "run" down the burner causing all of the gas to ignite upon exiting the burner tube. When the flame runner cracks or gets dammaged, the flame is not run efficiently down the burner and gas is allowed to exit out of the burner holes without being ignited. This also may prevent the flame frome reaching both sides of teh burner. This gas builds up until it contacts a flame then it ignites violently. This can also be caused by a plugged hole in the burner near the ignitor. Best advice is to verify this is the issue and replace the burner. While this event can happen indefinately without an issue...it can also lead to a potential explosion in the oven. Also, your oven probably does not control heat very well while this is happening. It can also reek havoc on a birthday cake.

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The valve your talking about with the two wires on it is the safety valve and should not let gas in without the ignightor being on sounds like its leaking i recommend shutting the gas off till the valve is replaced there is no piolet light on theese ranges

Posted on Jan 18, 2008

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