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Timer has 120v power, wheels turning in side window, timer does not advance.

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Hi, I work on time clocks daily on Refrigeration equipment as defrost control, 24 and 12 hour Paragon timers, 120volts to 277. If you have 120 as you say, and you can see the clock itself operating with no advancement, you have a mechanical problem internally with no movement of the dial. If it is hung up you can try manually turning it, if it will not move the timer is faulty.I am sorry, but it will need to go. Good Luck and Sincerely,
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Good morning, problem began when timer stopped working at the pin "off" point. Figured a new timer was in order so replaced with a WG1573-5 (same as previous) Timer is T104. Now the problem, when the timer...


Did you buy new timer or new clock motor?
WG1573 is replacement 240v clock motor for T100 series timer.
T100 series is fully repairable and can be maintained to last decades. I've seen operable timer from 1950s.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#T100

You can convert T104 240Volt timer into 120V timer by changing clock motor to WG1570 to replace WG1573.

In any case, timer is wired wrong somehow since it seems to cut off one leg of the 240V circuit.
Copy following links for illustrations and troubleshoot and more information than you can use in decades:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/T-104-control-240V-Load4-35.jpg

More related information
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T104
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Photos-of-WH40-timer.html#remove-dial

Don't grind up your motor.
Connect direct to hot wires and run 240V.

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Maytag lsg7806aa not stopping


If your dryer seems to run forever, it could be because of a clogged vent or internal ductwork. Your dryer may have an automatic cycle that turns off the dryer when the clothes are dry. It does this with a special thermostat or moisture-sensing system.

Normally, this is what happens during an automatic cycle:

  • The thermostat tells the dryer to heat until the interior of the dryer reaches a pre-set temperature--say 135 degrees.

  • When the dryer reaches the pre-set temperature, the thermostat tells the timer to begin advancing. (If there's a moisture sensor, the timer advances only if the moisture content of the clothing is low enough.)

  • The timer advances until the interior cools, then the thermostat tells the timer to stop advancing, and tells the dryer to start heating again.

This cycle continues until the clothes are dry. But…if the vent is clogged, the dryer may never reach the proper operating temperature, so it doesn't send the signal to the timer and the dryer continues to run indefinitely, even if the clothes are completely dry. To fix the problem, clean the vent and/or internal ductwork.

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How to wire a intermatic timer T104 240 v to a 120v?


T104 is 240volt timer.
Timer has terminals A 1 2 3 4
T-104 clock motor must receive 240Volts to operate.
Clock motor wires are white-colored and can be seen connected to terminals 1 and 3.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Back-of-WH40-2b.jpg

There are two work-arounds for using T104 for 120V.

1) Diagram 1 showing how to change wiring:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/T-104-control-120V-Load-500.jpg
Move 240V clock motor wires to terminal 1 and A.
Connect 240V Hot leads to terminals 1 and A. This will power the 240V clock motor
Hot wire going to 120V load connects to terminal 2. This wire will be turned on each time timer turns on, and 120Volts will power the 120V load.
To complete 120V circuit, neutral wire that comes from neutral busbar in breaker box connects to 120V load.

To control additional 120Volt circuit, run jumper wire from terminal 1 to terminal 3.
Connect Hot to second load to terminal 4.

2) Second method is to change T104 timer into T103 timer:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/T-104-control-120V-Load-2-5.jpg
Replace T104 240V clock with identical 120V clock motor from Grainger
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search
Neutral wires connect to terminal A.
Hot wire from Breaker connects to terminal 1
Hot going to Load connects to terminal 2

To control additional 120Volt circuit, run jumper wire from terminal 1 to terminal 3.
Connect Hot to second load to terminal 4.

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I have Intermatic timer WG 1573 208/277V 60Hz 3W stamped on the case. I would like to chage this unit to a 110V timer system if possible. (In other words just be able to switch clock motors) If this is...


WG1573 is a 240 Volt clock motor for T100 series timers.
This means you have T-104 timer.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
Image shown on link above is T104R outdoor timer.
T104 indoor timer is the same except door does not have rubber gasket.
Terminals are labeled A 1 2 3 4
If this is not your timer, then add a comment.

Following instructions will convert T104 240V timer to T103 120V timer

Clock motor can be replace with identical 120V clock motor from Grainger
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search

Timer mechanism snaps out and clock motor is located on back.
Remove clock motor with star screwdriver tip

Connect new clock motor wires to DIFFERENT terminals than before.
Old clock was connected to terminals 1 and 3
New 120V clock motor is connected to terminals A and 1

Wiring for 120V T103 is shown on link below.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T103
White neutral wire must connect to terminal A
Black hot wire must connect to terminal 1

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I have an intermatic C8865 timer. i want to wire it into an EFM model AF150-1 coal stoker furnace, because the fire goes down to far inbetween actual times heat is called for. also have main switch for...


Intermatic C8865 timer is a 5-hour cycle timer that repeats same cycle each 5 hour period.
This timer has 120Volt clock motor and is 120V timer.
Timer has NO and NC terminals.
NO terminal turns ON when timer turns ON
NC terminals is ON all the time, except when timer turns ON. At this point NC terminal turns OFF.

You have 3 things: 120V timer, 120V honeywell transformer, 120V stoker motor/fan
The transformer needs to be ON at all times.
The stoker motor is going to turn ON when the cycle timer turns ON.

You have 120V cable with black wire, white wire (and bare ground, which connects to green ground screw and to other bare grounds and won't be discussed further)

Black wire is hot
White wire is neutral

Black wire connects to 'Switch common terminal' on timer.
Same wire also connects to black wire on Honeywell transformer.

White wire connects to 'Clock terminal' on timer
Same wire connects to white wire on Honeywell transformer and to white wire on Stoker motor.
So all the white wires are connected together.

Last wire is black wire to stoker motor.
This wire connects to NO terminals on timer.

Here is drawing.
Add a comment any time
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My model t12404r will not turn the pump off. Even if I manually move the switch to the off position, the pump keeps running. The only way to stop the pump is at the breaker box. The other timer in the...


I don't know if you have a 240V pump and 120V cleaner.
Or if both are 120V

T10000 series manual has troubleshooting
http://www.polytecpools.com/images/pdf/intermatic_t10000r.pdf

I specialize in timers.
If the manual override will not work and the circuit cannot be stopped by the timer:
Then the timer is bad.

To check for sure:
When pool pump is OFF, use tester and check voltage across terminals 1 and 2 on pump side
When cleaner is OFF, use tester and check voltage across terminals 1 and 2 on cleaner side

What test results show:
The cleaner side test across 1 and 2 should show no voltage when timer is OFF
The pump side test across 1 and 2 should also show no voltage when timer is OFF

If the pump side test across 1 and 2 shows voltage all the time, then the timer is broken.
There are no replacement parts for the internal on-off mechanism.

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Polytec pools and spas sells the same timer for $215:
http://www.polytecpools.com/intermatic-t12404r-control-center-w220v-dual-timer-wo-breakers-p-543.html
BH electric shows the T10000 series for $178
http://www.beverlyhillselectric.com/t12404r.html

Add a comment if you need help wiring your new timer

You have what is called a 2-channel timer.
A single-channel timer can operate 2 or more Loads (pump, cleaner), but the Loads turn on-and-off at the same time.
A 2-channel timer has a clock (or digital program in the case of digital timers) so each Load turns on-and-off with a different schedule.

As a general rule, 2-channel timers are more expensive.
To avoid the higher price, you can replace a two channel timer with 2 ordinary timers.
Let me offer a replacement strategy that might save you money.
Keep the existing timer for the cleaner.
a) Buy Intermatic T-104R weatherproof timer if you have 240V pool pump.
b) Buy Intermatic T-101R weatherproof timer if you have 120V pool pump.
Here is a resource for the Intermatic timer I am suggesting:
The webpage has links to sellers, it has manuals and it has wiring diagrams for the do-it-yourself-er
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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AMF Model No. 7008-00 How do I know if it is working or not. Where can I get more Pins to stop the bld everyday at 5pm.


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Paragon 7008-00 timer parts:
http://www.paragontimecontrols.com/parts_accessories.htm
http://www10.shopping.com/-paragon+timer+trippers

Paragon mechanical 7008-00 has 120V clock motor
-8 poles control 1-4 separate 120V loads, with 2 NO Normally Open and 2 NC Normally Closed circuits with max 690 Watts per pole.

Test 120V clock motor:
-Clock motor connects to two far right terminals. Black hot to pole M, White neutral to pole T.
-You should be able to hear clock motor running by putting ear against outside case.
-Clock motor will rotate wheel, if wheel is not rotating, then motor is not running.

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I have the # 4001 - 00 timer (other info on timer is TD-1744OG) My timer is being used to turn on and off specific lights for an apartment complex - ie front entrance, back entrance and so on. My...


4001-00 is 120Volt mechanical timer.
I suggest replacing old mechanical time piece with newer electronic time clock with back up carryover.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Boxtype.html

Intermatic EH10 is 120V has power carryover
Tork EW103B has selectable voltage with capacitor carryover
Sylvania SA300 is 120V has backup battery carryover and also has dawn-to-dusk feature

Open link above to see manuals and sellers

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LER8648LW0 Dryer. Not heating, runs continuously (stops w/ door opened). Timer not advancing. Checked fuse(0 ohms), thermostats (0 ohms) and coil (10 ohms). Timer was at 10-11 K ohms,(high end). So...


One side of the element powers from the timer and the other side from the motor . Remove one wire from the element , and check which wire is not getting 120 V . Trace the wire NOT getting 120V and it will lead either to the timer or the motor , providing that the small t-stat looking piece (thermal cut-off) located close to the top of the heater box , shows continuity . If it does not , then pt # 3392519 is for it and the hi-limit t-stat . If you replace it , then replace both that come in the kit .

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