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Intermatic t10004 control panel trips the circuit breaker

I have an intermatic t10004 control panel that runs my pool. When the timer is tripped to turn the power on, or the unit is turned on manually, this trips the circuit breaker. What is the next step for me?

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  • jkfred10 Nov 20, 2009

    Thanks so much for the feedback. The heavy plastic tubing that houses the wiring leading from the timer to the motor had quite a bit of water inside it, but there were no obvious cracks or holes in the plastic insulation that covers any of the three wires inside. Of course, I can only see about 2 inches of wiring in what is about 5 feet housed within the heavy plastic, so this may account for the short. Is it now just a matter of waiting for the whole thing to dry out and try again?

  • jkfred10 Nov 20, 2009

    Thanks so much for the advice....the thick plastic housing that runs from the timer box to the motor had quite a bit of water inside, so the short must be occuring in the wiring inside there. I could not see cracks or holes in the insulation covering any of the 3 wires inside, but it could be anywhere along the length housed inside the thick plastic tubing. Do I now just wait for this to dry out and try again? How long is a reasonable wait time before I could conclude that emptying the water out did not solve the problem?

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That circuit breaker is letting you know that you've got a problem in the electrical wiring.... What's next is to turn the power off to BOTH legs of the breaker.
Begin by physically inspecting all the connections in the timer box, and at the breaker and all the way to the pump motor. Make sure all connections are dry, and there's no water in any of the conduits...this will cause a short circuit and trip the breaker. If there's any bare power leg wires touching a grounding point , this can cause the breaker to trip. Lastly check the motor on the pump; on the motor end, there should be a cap you can remove and use a crescent wrench to make sure the motor shaft is moving freely. It could be jammed with debris....this happens around my pool often because I'm surrounded by trees with needles. If the motor cannot turn freely, this will cause the breaker to blow... I'm pretty sure that your timer isn't the issue... Please let me know what you find out.

Posted on Nov 19, 2009

  • KEN LaPOINT
    KEN LaPOINT Nov 20, 2009

    How much time to wait? Good question... depends on ambient temp etc.. While you're waiting, be sure to look around for a possible short somewhere.. esp around where the motor contacts and cables connect. Be sure the power is off.. it's 240Volts!

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