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I have quite a few d530-SFF systems. They have the ''standard PCI'' slot ''carrier'' that plugs into 1 of the 3 PCI slots on the M/B and has 2 full-size PCI slots. I installed a PNY Nvidia GeForce 8400GS video adapter in the ''top'' slot on the carrier, but the system would not boot, no video, no network, nothing. So I tried the ''bottom'' slot, same thing. Tried a 2nd system, same result. Looks like the system just won't boot with the GeForce 8400GS in the carrier slots. When I remove the 8400GS, it boots right up. Can you assist? We're trying to use the 8400GS cards to setup dual monitors on these systems. Thanks! --Terry

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  • TLeBlanc22 Nov 18, 2009

    We have other "models" of this same type of HP workstation that do not have the "horizontal cage", just have the 3 low-profile PCI slots in the back. The card works in those units.

    I noticed that these HP units have an AGP slot for a video adapter. We were trying to have a common configuration, if possible, using the PCI 8400GS cards. Very disappointing if insufficient power is the culprit, since that's probably something we can't change.

  • TLeBlanc22 Nov 18, 2009

    The HP unit where the 8400GS worked (with the low-profile PCI slots directly out the back) is a DC5000-SFF, an older unit. It's not a d530-SFF. Sounds like it has a larger power supply.

  • TLeBlanc22 Nov 19, 2009

    Yeah, tried that. Behavior changed, but only slightly...got a beep, still wouldn't boot. I unplugged the power cables from the floppy and CD, but didn't unplug the data cables.

    Most of the d530-SFF boxes have 2x1GB plus 2x256M sticks for a total of 2.5GB of memory (the 2x256M were original, the 2x1GB were recent additions to improve performance).

    May have found a solution, at least something to try. Worked with PNY tech reps both from my end and through CDW, did not find a workable solution within the 185W power limit of the d530-SFF.

    May have found a solution from ATI. The Diamond S60 card is a 64MB DDR PCI adapter, says it supports 2 monitors in the specs, but I only see a single VGA connector listed, along with a TV-out. Have 1 on the way, courtesy of CDW, to evaluate.

    Worst case, if I can't get 2 monitors both running from the add-in graphics adapter, we'll continue to use the Intel integrated adapter for one and the add-in card for the other. That's how we currently have the other 2 systems running with the 8400GS right now...have not yet tried to get the 2nd monitor up on the 8400GS, probably have to diable the integrated adapter to do that. Next phase...

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I checked the specs on the video card thinking it must be PCI-e and not old style PCI but in fact there is an old style PCI meant for just what you are trying to do. The problem is the memory at 512meg plus the GPU put your power requirements at 300w and I bet you have at best 185w in those units so they won't even start and you won't be able to cram the bigger power supply in there. Go with a card that has lower specs and 64 - 128 ram and you should be ok. Just check the power req. JC

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  • Jon Hunter Nov 18, 2009

    There is one thing you can try just for fun - unplu the power (and the data) cables to the floppy and disable it in BIOS. You would be surprised how much juice they use in standby and who needs 'em?
    You'll still be pushing the power requirements but it might work - it will also help to cut back on the # of ram chips if you can use higher density to get the same amount. Main users of power are the CPU, the video gpu, the CD rom when spinning (and the floppy).
    JC


  • Jon Hunter Nov 19, 2009

    You might want pull those 256 meg rams. They could actually slow down memory cycles and they really aren't going to do much for performance even if matched to the 1 gigs. If you unplug power cables you need to unplug data cables or some sytems will hang anyway. For that matter you won't see much diff over 1 gig in XP unless you are running Photoshop, video rendering or CAD - something with big files. In XP change your virtual memory to fixed size 1.5 times ram (preferably on fresh install on a clean HD) to improve virt memory.
    A half height card will usu. have the 2nd video on a separate backplane.


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