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I put up a new ceiling fixure which is controlled by a wall switch. The light now won't swirch off....... I attached the fixture's 2 black wires to the black and the black with a white stripe wire in the box and the white wires to a white wire with copper inside of it.

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One of those cables in the ceiling is a power cable from the electrical panel . the other is a wire to the wall switch. if you have a meter then you can connect them correctly .. BUT ,, basic connection would be .. the two black house wires together ,, then a white wire to each of the fan wires .. that puts the fan/light on the switch control.
To be totally correct the white power wire should connect to the white fan unit wire.

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I am trying to install a ceiling fan and from the ceiling I have a copper white and black wire. Now from the fan itself there is a black blue and white wire. Not sure where to connect the copper wire.


Good question, proper wiring is a crucial virtue that needs to be one hundred percent accurate.

Three wires showing from the ceiling lamp fixture harness, positive, negative, and ground.

The negative wire is the white wire,
The Hot wire (positive) is the wire of brighter color than known negative,
220V AC (alternating current) home wiring to(" duplex outlet switch, GFI switch, single/dual pole light switch, lamp fixtures,") the Hot wire or lead, is normally Black, the lighter color, or White is neutral or neggative,
Neutral wire (completes circuit) allows current flow to continue through to other parts of house, Alternating current.

The Ground wire is usually wrapped in green color, or unmarked copper.

The copper wire from the ceiling will need to be grounded to the metal bracket on the new light fixture, a gold or silver screw, sometimes tagged with green, is the proper grounding location, Any place on Metal not attached to ceiling bracket, Ground should be attached to metal on fan,

White wire from Fan is neutral, Negative.
Black wire from Fan is Hot Wire, Positive,
If Blue wire from Fan is Not Manufacture spliced, Meaning no Copper is exposed, Wire is not used, Blue wire is NOT ground,
If Fan has a light, Voltage from Hot Black wire will supply both light and fan functions,

Safety First.
flip off breaker switch to the room fan is being installed.

Doubble Check
Black^Black wire connection is secure.

White^White neutral wire connection is secure.

Ground is fastened securely to metal or wrapped under a screw.

Using splice caps is recomended, The plastic shell encloses the wire connection ensuring No stray copper is exposed, limits possibility of cross wiring.

Google the brand of fan being installed, and Check wire color code, and wiring diagram, Info good to have, and checking twice will only guarantee Lamp Fixture Install Well Done.

(Blue wire may be there for installing multiple ceiling fixtures in a loop circuit, so all controlled by same light switch.)


Enjoy Your New Fan,

Jos
Thoughts&Comments, encouraged jtobias1020@gmail.com

Mar 26, 2017 | Dryers

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How do I wire an ungrounded chandelier to an ungrounded circuit when there are two cables (each with black and white wires) coming out of the ceiling box? The wall switch has a dimmer on it.


1. Did you remove a light fixture from the ceiling box?
2. Do you know which wires were attached to the light you removed?
3. Can you identify which cable is coming from the dimmer?
Once these questions are known, more can be deduced.

Nov 01, 2014 | Electrical Supplies

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Replacing a light fixture


This is much simpler than it sounds, but if you're a total novice you'll need to read it all.

First, make sure power to fixture is off. Best method is to locate circuit breaker or fuse that controls that fixture's power. At minimum shut off the wall switch to it if there is one.

Next, remove the old fixture. Usually there are two screws or decorative nuts holding the base cover (canopy) on. On ceiling pendant fixtures there may be a retaining ring holding up the canopy, unscrew this ring counterclockwise and the canopy will drop over the support chain, exposing the junction box where the wires are connected.

It is critical at this point that the power is off.

Modern house wiring and fixtures are connected with three wires.
Green or bare copper = ground (earth)
White or grey = neutral
Black, Red, Blue or any other solid color other than green, white or grey = power or hot wire (this is the wire that is controlled by a switch.
For simplicity I will call the three: Green, White and Black.

The next step requires you to carefully pull the wires out of the junction box and isolate the black, white and green wire connections from each other. Make sure the connectors (wire nuts) for each connection are accessible.

Warning: With old or over heated wiring, take extra care not to crack or disturb the insulation(wire covering) on any of the wires. If insulation is crumbling away exposing bare wire, stop and call an electrician! Do not turn the power back on until he has repaired those damaged wires, they could start a fire.

Isolate the connection between the black house wire and black fixture wire. Remove this wire nut. At this point I usually use an electrical tester to double check that the power is off by touching one side to the newly exposed black connection and any grounded metal part nearby.
(Note: some multiple switched (three way) circuits may use a white wire as a power wire. If the black fixture wire is connected to a white house wire, mark that white house wire with black electrical tape for future identification.)
Once you are positive there is no power at the fixture junction box remove the connectors from the white and green wires.

Detach the old fixture and it's mounting bracket.

Re-attach the new fixture using bracket and new connectors that are usually provided. Some brackets have a green ground screw. Wrap the bare ground wire clockwise around that screw and tighten it down leaving enough remaining ground wire to attach to the fixture ground.

If the wires to the new fixtures do not have a 1/2 inch of exposed bare wire at the ends (stripped) you must do so. I use a wire stripping tool but you can do it with a sharp knife being careful not to nick the metal wire.
Once the wire tips are stripped, hold the tips of each color pair together side by side, slip the wire nut over them and twist clockwise until snug. (White to white, black to black etc.)
Take care that the new wire nuts are secure at each connection. Do not over tighten them but insure that they are correctly attached by gently tugging on each wire. When completed the black and white connections should have no exposed bare wire showing.
The Green (bare copper) wire is there for safety and never carries current, hence exposed wire is not an issue on ground wires.

Assemble and attach the new fixture according to instructions in the box.

Pendant ceiling fixtures usually require additional assembly steps including adjusting chain height, looping wires through the chain and slipping retaining nut and canopy over chain prior to connecting. Always follow directions that come with the fixtures.

When in doubt, call a professional. Electricity is dangerous.

Apr 06, 2013 | Dryers

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Hello, I have a ceiling light fixture however there is nowhere I can install it on my ceiling. I have decided to run a wire from the light fixture along the ceiling to the wall and down to an electrical...


What you want to do is against the National
Electrical Code & unsafe

Install a proper box in the ceiling for the
light fixture

Never use exposed cords

Jun 29, 2011 | Hammering

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How to wire this fan


The wiring on most paddle / ceiling fans id such:

White = Fan and Light neutral or "common"
Black = Fan line voltage or "hot"
Blue = Light line voltage or "hot"
Green = safety ground

If you are replacing an existing light fixture - be sure to replace the ceiling box with one designed for use with a fan - as per electrical code. If the existing box had only 2 wires (or 3 counting the ground) that connected to the old light fixture and it was controlled from a wall switch, the wiring would be fixture white to ceiling white, fixture black and fixture blue to ceiling black (or red) and fixture green to ceiling bare ground or connected to the metal box. This would power both the fan and light whenever the wall switch was on and the pull chains for each were also on. This is also the preferred wiring for replacement of a pull chain type light fixture (no wall switch present).

If there are other wires in the box that previously were not connected to the old light fixture, using a meter or tester - determine if there is constant power between the ceiling white wire and any of the these other wires (test with the wall switch on and off to be sure). If you do have constant power available, you might consider using the wall switch to control only the light, and using the pull chain to operate the fan (or vice-versa). Simply connect the black (for fan) or the blue (for light) to the "constant power on" wire and that part of the fixture will work by pull chain only - regardless of the wall switch position. If the fan can be shut off by the wall switch, it is very important that the wall switch remain a toggle (or on / off switch), do NOT replace with a dimmer type switch.

If you'd prefer to operate the fan and light completely independently of each other - you can purchase a 3rd party fan & light remote control device for between $30 - $50.

I hope this helps and good luck! Please rate my reply. Thanks!

Apr 22, 2011 | Aloha Housewares (93645) Ceiling Fan

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Chain to light does not work


Most paddle fans that come with a light kit (or provisions to add one via plug / jack later) provide at least 3 wires (most times 4 though) that will need to be connected to the house wiring. Those wires are:

1) Green, or Green with a Yellow stripe - this is the grounding wire and is connected to the grounded metal junction box or other ground wires.
2)White - this is the neutral wire and is connected to both the fan motor and light fixture.
3)Black - this wire connects to the fan motor. This wire along with the white wire completes a circuit for the fan.
4)Blue - this wire connects to the light fixture. This wire along with the white wire complete a circuit for the light fixture.

Ideally, the junction box in the ceiling has a neutral, ground and both an unswitched power source *and* a switched power source. An unswitched source is always on (regardless of any switch's position) while the switched source is controlled by one or more switch(es) near a door(s). Use a meter or tester to determine which wires are switched (probably black or red) and unswitched (probably black but may be red, too). Label them or orient them in such a way that you'll remember which is which. Turn the power off.

Connect the paddle fan's blue wire to the switched wire, the black wire to the unswitched wire(s), the white wire to the other neutral (most likely white wire(s) and finally, the ground wire to the rest of the ground wire(s). Turn power back on.

Wiring in this way allows the light fixture to be controlled by the wall switch(es) and the fan by the pull chain on the fixture. Turn the wall switch on and pull the chain until the light turns on. You can remove the long chain once the switch turns the light on and off so it is not accidentally shut off at the paddle fan later. Change the fan speed from high to low and eventually off with the chain.

If you only have a switched or unswitched power source in the ceiling, you'll have to connect both the black and blue paddle fan wires to whichever type power you have in the ceiling (switched or unswitched). If you're using a switched sourced, that switch will have to be left on in order for the fan or light to work.

If you have wired in any of these methods already, it could be that the switch for the fixture has failed, and should be replaced with a like-type switch.

I hope this helps!

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I'm installing a vanity light in the bathroom. The old one had a dimmer attached. For the new fixture, attached two white from the wall to the white in the fixture. attached two white from the wall to...


Get a test light, a bulb in a socket with a black and a white wire. disconnect both the black and the red. Also have access to the white or the ground. Then with the power hold the white test light wire to the white of the house and the black to the black. .turn the dimmer on and off and see if it controls the light. NEXT do the same with the red, that is test light black held to red and test light white held to house white. once again check the dimmer.

Typically when you have a hot red and a hot black in a fixture the black is on the dimmer and the red is always on because it is connected to an outlet built into the light. OR the light can be controlled from two locations, one regular switch and one dimmer switch.

Mar 01, 2010 | Electrical Supplies

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I want to put a switch on a existing light that has a power source from the main panel then carrys on to other wall receptacles.i just want the light to go on and off with the switch, not the receptacles.


there is a simple way and a not so simple solution, the simple solution is to take down the light fixture and replace with a pull chain fixture. I would have to know the building type commercial ...residential...is it hard piped and so on. In a residential setting the solution would be to install a piece of 14-2 romex between the fixture and the switch. 14-2 with ground is a flat cable with 3 wires (2 insulated and 1 bare). do not attempt with the power source on. the white insulated wire should be connected to the black wire in the fixture box, the other end of the white wire in your new piece of romex should be attached to one pole of the switch. the black wire in your new piece of romex should be attached to the black wire or gold screw of your fixture and the other end of your wire should be attached to the other pole of your switch. Now the other wire(the bare ground)if not attached will not affect the operation of the switch or light, but it is a safety which should be installed. all grounds should be connected to insure that any faulty wiring will trip the breaker saving anyone from getting shocked.

Dec 21, 2009 | Cooper Industries Cooper Wiring 2158V 3...

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Light will not shut off on fixture (replacement of ceiling fan)


One of the two cables in the ceiling box is power and the opther is a switch leg .. what you need to do is connect the two black wires together at the ceiling, connect the white power wire to the white fixture wire ,.,. connect the white switch wire to the black fixture wire .. put some black tape on that white to make it legal .

Sep 27, 2009 | Hampton Bay 52 In. Black Huntington III...

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I have an outside spot light with a motion detector controlled by an inside switch. I want to change outside fixture & install dimmer switch in place of wall switch. I removed outside fixture. There...


First, let me say that if you're not entirely comfortable doing high voltage electrical work, you might want to call an electrician. It's not impossible for you to get hurt or killed or burn down your house. At least be sure to turn of the circuit breaker while you're working on it.

The blacks and whites twisted together are passing through power to other parts of your premises and are always on, so be sure to keep them twisted together. The red is the one that will take power from your light switch and send it to your light fixture.

At the fixture, connect the white to white and red to black, the same as before. At the light switch, connect the black to one side of the switch and the red to the other. When you turn on the switch, it will permit power from the black to travel down the red to the fixture, and from the fixture, the circuit will be completed through the white.

Good luck!

Sep 12, 2009 | Leviton (102-5G108-RW5)

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