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No electronic ignitor or spark intermitently

I have a Carrier 58SXA updraft furnace installed in the basement of my house. It was installed in Nov of 1990. Carrier techs have a path worn to my door. They turn off and on power and say "it just needed to be reset". I have been doing that all the time. For two years intermittently every 3-5 days this heating season, I find inducer blower running and no flame. I reset and 90% of time it does fix.But some times the inducer blower turns on ,micro switch on draft inducer board operates (contacts open/close but I do not get a spark to ignite pilot light for main burner. These are I believe the part # for my boards IDR #313680 and ILO lh33wz512. I need to know sequence of operation and test points. If it was a gas prob. I believe I would still get spark. All wiring, plugs, pins, ground wires ect. are fine when I ohm them out. Furnace has been working normal for 35 starts with an average run time of 16 min. each. (very short because temp. outside is only 38 degrees.) Temp and duration don't seem to matter. This has been an ongoing prob. for 2 years. I will not allow another goof to come to my house and reset my furnace and say "its fine now...call us when it fails again". Is there a way to test IDR if it gives signal to ILO ? I have a wiring diagram but it only has boxes for boards and no info. The IDR has a relay soldered onto it and I believe to contacts are making when it picks. Oh ya when inducer blower starts the relay in the IDR and it sounds like a relay in the ILO picks also. If you can diagnose and fix this by my poorly written description you deserve a raise, promotion ect!

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Hi Tamiw and oh Mighty Guru Text,.

I had the same problem with the oven not emitting a flame from the burner, but at the same time- the ignitor lit up and heated the oven enough to say it is 'HOT'.

It seems to be an intermittent problem';sometimes it emits a flame while other times I would wait 11 minutes with the dial set to 400 to emit flames.,

Detailed description of PROBLEM and steps I have already taken:

The Ignitor always turns on, and lights up.

1. After the initial cleaning of the burner vents with a coarse bristle cleanibng brush, I turned the oven dial on and everything seemed to be working fine. ie: ignitor turned on, blue flames came out of the burner and maintained a constant temperature.


Then,-after I had performed a "self-clean", to see if this feature would now work, it did! I used the oven for bake a few hours later......

The same symptom ocurred, the ignitor went on, but no flames were observed, YES, there was heat coming from the oven, but NO flames coming out of the burner mechanism:

The Ignitor turned on, but no "flames" were observed. Heat was given off from the glowbar, but no flames. I did NOT smell any gas, only what an inside of the oven smells like after cleaning.

From my records, I had replaced the thermostat about 4 years ago.

Today, I tried this again, and sure enough the ignitor lit up, and the burner was emitting blue flames. But when I put the "FLAME SPREADER" back, and turned the oven OFF, then on again to bake cookies, the oven didnt seem to heat up completely.

Could this be intermittent? or Could the flame spreader hamper the burner operation? (Earlier when I loosened the nut on the flame spreader the bolt broke. I tried to replace with another nut, but the bolt/screw was too short for contact.) Could this contribute to the problem? Does the flame spreader need to be tightly screwed for the burner to function correctly?

One thing I am noticing, is that it takes LONGER for the flames to come thru (than the average 90 seconds)

For example: Ten minutes ago I set the dial to 350. 5 minutes went by, and no flames, then set the dial to 450 after ten minutes oven was hot, but no flames?

I THEN SET TIMER FOR ANOTHER 5 MINUTES, AND 1 MINUTE LATER THE FLAMES TURNED ON. Total preheating time for flames to come on today = 11 minutes.


I have a "MULTIMETER" from DIGITEK Model # DS830B+ This should work to see the amperage, but I dont remember how to test it! the MAX OHMs are 2000, MA 200 Max, 500V
http://www.digitek.com.hk/

Can I use this to test the current? How would I do this?

Lastly, HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO CHANGE OUT THE IGNITOR> Meaning do I have to shut off the gas as well as the power circuit?

Ok, hope this helps.

Thanks again,
Callie T

Posted on Jul 19, 2008

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i have a whirlpool gas accubake range and only two burners will ignite. The other two burners make a clicking sound and release gas but never light. I have to use a match to light the other two burners and the flame is uneven on one. What should i do?

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Hi there. there is no spark to ignite the gas in oven.


You will need to replace the spark module if you don't hear any clicking, or there is no spark present when trying to ignite the gas.

To test the Spark Module:
When properly operating, the spark module repeatedly produces a spark at the ignitor accompanied by a sharp snapping sound.
  1. Turn off gas and power supply to unit.
  2. Check wiring diagram to verify all terminals and wire connections are correct and tight with no cuts in the wiring.
  3. Prepare to measure voltage on spark module from terminal L to N.
  4. Turn power supply back on.
  5. Turn top burner to LITE position.
  6. If no voltage is present on the meter, this will indicate the electrical circuit is interrupted before the spark module
  7. If voltage is present, then check ignitor.
  8. If ignitors are ok; then replace spark module.
To access the Spark Module:
  1. Turn off electrical power and gas to the range.
  2. Disconnect gas and power from unit.
  3. Remove screws securing top surface burners.
  4. Remove surface burner and disconnect spark ignitor wire from surface burner.
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May 18, 2011 | Amana Ovens

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I have a wall oven and the power goes on but no gas smell or anything no flames no nothing i think its the ignighter what do u think please help


Yes, ignitor problem. Some ignitors are easy to replace and some are hard to install. If you know how to test for voltage at the ignitor and a pretty handy, you can replace the ignitor yourself. Call your parts house and order a new ignitor using the model number. Ask if they have a cheaper generic replacement. Replace the ignitor and test. So far, every gas range I have worked on with this problem, has been a bad ignitor. You can also have a bad oven control, sensor, thermostat, valve, or wiring problem. Unlikely however. Good Luck, Appliance Specialists.

Jan 19, 2010 | Ovens

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I replaced what I thought was a bad igniter.But still had no glow from new igniter. Must be something else.Where do I go from here?


Hello there: The oven bake burner and ignition components are located beneath the oven cavity. In most cases the oven bottom panel can be removed for access (check your owner's manual) but on some models the oven burner has to be accessed from below in the warming or broiler drawer area. If accessing from the top, a 'flame spreader' (flat metal plate) above the burner may also need to be removed to see the burner itself.Many ovens use a single oven burner in which case they only have a single gas valve and ignitor. The same burner is used for both bake and broil functions, the broil usually being in the drawer area below the oven. Higher-end models may have a separate bake and broil burner. On such a system there will be two ignitors, one for each burner. They may also employ a 'dual' gas valve (see illustration above) instead of using a separate valve for each burner.Some range models may have an additional broil burner located at the top of the oven cavity which may be referred to as a 'waist high' broil. If not, broiling usually takes place in the drawer area below the oven, which uses the same bake burner for the broil function. Most gas ranges currently available employ one of 3 basic gas ignition systems; pilot ignition, hot surface ignition system (which uses a 'glow bar' or 'glow coil' - aka an "ignitor") and a spark ignition system. The latter two being referred to as "electronic ignition" systems as they use electricity in one form or another to operate the oven heating system. Only the pilot ignition system has an actual "pilot" (which is a small but real "flame") which might need manual lighting.
If the surface burners of a range are a spark ignition type, the oven IS one of the possible kinds of electronic ignition systems and thus will not usually have a "pilot" which needs lighting. Be aware though that just because the surface burners might light via a spark doesn't necessarily mean the oven uses the spark type ignition system too.
There is one older style of electronic ignition system which does also use an oven pilot but it is very rare and such a system hasn't been used in oven models since the early to mid 70's. It is the 'constant pilot' *electronic ignition* system.


Making Observations
The oven burner's operation will usually need to be directly observed while in operation as the first step to troubleshooting problems.Ignition System Type Links
Ignition System Types:
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  • Electronic Ignition with Constant Pilot (rare)
  • Electronic Ignition with Glow Ignitor (most common)
  • Spark Ignition System

  • Is there continuity between the oven gas valve's terminals?


    Hot Surface ('Glow Bar') Ignition System (most common)
    This is the most popular system currently used for ovens and is comprised of a control mechanism (whether thermostat or electronic control), the oven ignitor and an oven gas valve.


    What happens in this style ignition system is that the thermostat or electronic control switches power to the oven ignitor and gas valve circuit which are connected in series (one after the other). As power flows through the ignitor it heats and draws current (measured in amperage). Once the oven ignitor draws a specific amount of current the oven valve opens to allow gas to flow to the oven burner where the glowing hot ignitor (glow bar) ignites it. Power must continually flow through the ignitor and oven gas valve for gas to be released into the oven burner to create a flame.

    It should usually only take in the area of 30-90 seconds for the oven ignitor to reach the proper resistance to allow the proper amperage to reach the gas valve to open it and for the ignitor to ignite the gas at the oven burner.

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    There is one older style of electronic ignition system which does also use an oven pilot but it is very rare and such a system hasn't been used in oven models since the early to mid 70's. It is the 'constant pilot' *electronic ignition* system

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