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My Pioneer DVR K17LA is Stuck in PIO mode by VISTA Home Premium




By windeguy on Oct 18, 2009

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My Pioneer DVR K17LA is recognized by Vista Home Premium, but it will only work in PIO mode which is so slow as to be useless. I have seen all of the regedit solutions for "stuck in PIO" but those values are not on my system. I have uninstalled the IDE channel using the Hardware Manager and tried just about every solution suggested on the internet.
The old device , a TST corp DVD R/W won't read or write disks anymore, but it will show up as UDMA mode 2 if I plug it in while the DVR K17LA only has PIO mode.

Any ideas?
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Oct 18, 2009

- Please note that there is no known way for me to enter the true BIOS on this ACER 9410Z Aspire laptop. This is the first PC I have owned where the BIOS is hidden from the user. I would also like to know how to actually get into the real BIOS.

Oct 18, 2009

- bob_computer, thank you for the response. My computer is an ACER 9410Z Laptop so there is no cable that I can change, no switches to set, etc. I simply plug the DVR K17 into the drive bay. There are no motherboard drivers that I can update. I cannot even find a method to enter the REAL Bios on this machine. Any other thoughts?

Oct 18, 2009

- Thank you for the suggestions, but since this is an ACER Laptop, the only option I have is to plug the device into the existing drive bay. There are no cables to swap and I don't have any way to update the chipset drivers in this laptop. I cannot even enter the real BIOS on this ACER 9410Z. During POST, I have tried holding every funtion key, ESC, DEL, and various combinations of normally used to enter the BIOS, but I cannot get at the REAL Bios of the machine to see if that would help. By the way, the original, but now nonfunctional for reading or writing, DVD R/W from TSST corp can be inserted into the drive bay and it is set automatically to UDMA 2 mode. Very frustrating.

Oct 18, 2009

- Thank you for the suggestions, but since this is an ACER Laptop, the only option I have is to plug the device into the existing drive bay. There are no cables to swap and I don't have any way to update the chipset drivers in this laptop. I cannot even enter the real BIOS on this ACER 9410Z. During POST, I have tried holding every funtion key, ESC, DEL, and various combinations of normally used to enter the BIOS, but I cannot get at the REAL Bios of the machine to see if that would help. By the way, the original, but now nonfunctional for reading or writing, DVD R/W from TSST corp can be inserted into the drive bay and it is set automatically to UDMA 2 mode. Very frustrating.

Oct 18, 2009

- The BIOS you can enter by entering F2 is not a real BIOS. I can view information as to what devices are installed. But the only thing that can be changed in that pseudo BIOS is the boot order of the drives. It is not a true BIOS where you can change settings of the drives, etc. I went to the Acer sight for the drivers. The only one that I can see that might be of use is called the Intel Chipset Drivers. Would you say that is the correct one to try? Regarding flashing the BIOS, do you know the procedure for that if there is a new version?

Oct 18, 2009

- I was able to upgrade the BIOS quite easily from V 1.18 to the latest version available V 1.24. That in itself did not make a difference regarding the DVD R/W problem. Awaiting your response to see if upgrading the Intel Chipset drivers makes sense now.

Oct 18, 2009

- After upgrading to the latest BIOS version and also upgrading to the latest chipset drivers available, I still cannot set the Pioneer DVR to anything but PIO mode in the hardware manager. I also removed the ATA device connected to the DVD device in the hardware manager and then it re-installed on boot up. Still no change. In other words, no change from the start of the current attempts to fix the issue. They certainly all made sense to try. Any other suggestions?

Oct 18, 2009

- After upgrading to the latest BIOS version and also upgrading to the latest chipset drivers available, I still cannot set the Pioneer DVR to anything but PIO mode in the hardware manager. I also removed the ATA device connected to the DVD device in the hardware manager and then it re-installed on boot up. Still no change. In other words, no change from the start of the current attempts to fix the issue. They certainly all made sense to try. Any other suggestions?

Oct 18, 2009

- By the way, as a side note, Acer America refuses to tell me how to get into the real BIOS of my laptop without paying them more than I actually paid for the DVD R/W.. Pitiful. I have no idea what I can try next.

Oct 18, 2009

- I checked the ACER web site and the Pioneer web sit and there is nothing I can find about updating the firmware on the Pioneer DVR K17. There was a utility on the Pioneer web site that I downloaded which allowed me to find out that the firmware version on flashed on the DVD drive is version REV 1.05. But there is no updated firmware listed on the ACER site or the Pioneer site.

Oct 18, 2009

- The only firmware that I could find for a DVR-K17 was regarding a DELLL computer. I found the same firmware on several driver websites. I even tried to flash that firmware, but the utility would not work, saying that it could not find a valid target. Am I out of options?

Oct 19, 2009

- Yes, I have removed and replaced the device. It is detected, reinstalled, but still only shows up as being able to run in PIO mode.

Oct 19, 2009

- Yes I have checked in the device manager. That was my first step when I started all of this and discovered the problem. The box for DMA is greyed out and cannot be checked to enable DMA. All of the other things we have tried were to try and allow me to check that little box for DMA.

Oct 19, 2009

- To summarize what I have tried so far. I have deleted the ATA hardware chain , as well as the DVD from the HW manager and let it reinstall. NO change I have done that many times along the way. I have also upgraded the PCs BIOS and motherboard drivers. I investigated all possible solutions in the registry that have been published, etc. etc... Still cannot set it to DMA mode in the device manager. By the way, there is NO method in this notebook to get at what I call the real BIOS and set things like disk size, DMA mode, etc. It is automagic ( or ACER simply will not tell me the dirty little secret). The pseudo BIOS you can get by hitting F2 on boot up simly shows what hardware is in the machine and lets you change the boot order of the devices.That is it. That is why I think the firmware in the DVD device is conflicting with the ACER "internal" BIOS and the drive defaults to PIO mode. I cannot find any other firmware for the drive. Unless there is something else I have missed?

Oct 28, 2009

- It appears that there is no solution to the problem of getting the Pioneer DVR-K17LA to work in DMA mode in my ACER 9410Z notebook running VISTA home premium. I will have to put the drive on the shelf and purchase a different unit and hope that will work. Thanks for the help, but this problem looks like one without a solution.

Nov 02, 2009

- To get to the Acer mother board drivers go to this web site: http://gd.panam.acer.com/home/ You should then be on the drivers and downloads page. Then select "Notebook", then "Aspire", then "9410Z". The driver to download is the following one: Chipset Intel Chipset Driver 8.1.1.1010 568.1 KB 2008/12/08 Good luck on that. I have not found the solution and am now considering what drive to purchase that will work automatically.

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posted on Oct 18, 2009
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bob_computer

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Change the IDE cable to a full UIDE cable and make sure you also have the latest motherboard chipset drivers for your model board.

They can usually be had from the boards website in the support section.
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Oct 18, 2009

- Sorry about that but the original posts didnt mention laptop.

I would still go with updating motherboard drivers and if there is a BIOS upgrade maybe go with that too.

Download them from the acer site and go from there.

You can enter the BIOS by pressing F2 during boot up as soon as you power on.


The manual gives you a little more info about bios

Oct 18, 2009

- Yes the intel chipset is the motherboard drivers.

after installation it may want to restart and even if it doesnt make it do one anyway

It may take a little longer to fully boot up as it will re-detect a lot of hardware thats normal

Oct 18, 2009

- F2 is the official BIOS.

I am sat here looking at one at the side of me.

As far as I know there is nothing odd about your drive.

double check the acer site and see if there is a FIRMWARE update for your drive (sort of like a bios update but just for the drive itself).


Oct 19, 2009

- Have you tried removing the drive (lappy off)
power the lappy then do a regualr shutdown
re-fit drive

not sure if yours is hot-swappable so dont hot swap !

I have had that re-detect hrdware before.

Oct 19, 2009

- have you checked via device manager if it will let you change it do dma ?
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posted on Nov 02, 2009
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Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. I have a 9410Z as well, but I'm trying an Pioneer DVR-K16. It will not leave PIO 0. I too have tried all of the suggested remedies...and there is no way to access anything more than those superficial BIOS settings that you mentioned. I believe that this is because SATA is supposed to handle all of that for us.

I'm leaning toward the Intel chipset updates that you mention, but cannot seem to find them on the Acer site. I'd appreciate it if you would be willing to help me get pointed in the right direction.

Thanks
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Nov 02, 2009

- ****. I did not mean to post that as a solution.

Nov 05, 2009

- I just replaced it with a DVD R/CD-RW. From the looks of everything I see online we are SOL with getting this thing to work on an ACER. Oh well...I never burn DVD's anyway...thumb drives are so much quicker and easier.

Thanks for the pointer for the Intel chipset. I did not see a BIOS update anywhere though...not that it would help.

I wish you the best of luck.
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