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My xp7220 will not rinse - no water passes but if I ask for hot water only it works. Can you help and tell why is this? Thanks PS

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  • mexsto Oct 12, 2009

    Hi - thanks for your response. Here is a little more detail if you can help



    I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed malfunctions which result in a number of problems. Currently the main problem is that the machine starts the coffee cycle to produce coffee but water does not seem to go in and coffee therefore does not come out. It remains dry. The thermoblock heats up the mechanical actions of the tamping head and balista valve seem to work but no fluid comes out. After a period of time I get an ERROR 06 displayed and I have to shut down the machine. Staring from cold again, if I select 'hot water only' then the correct amount of hot water comes out and all is fine for this function.
    Prior to this problem I did have coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been dry and the cake was wet - not good
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that the ERROR 06 code is caused by an electronic bug and I should change the PEC or the Display board. I do not think this is correct. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil





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  • mexsto Oct 12, 2009

    I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed malfunctions which result in a number of problems. Currently the main problem is that the machine starts the coffee cycle to produce coffee but water does not seem to go in and coffee therefore does not come out. It remains dry. The thermoblock heats up the mechanical actions of the tamping head and balista valve seem to work but no fluid comes out. After a period of time I get an ERROR 06 displayed and I have to shut down the machine. Staring from cold again, if I select 'hot water only' then the correct amount of hot water comes out and all is fine for this function.
    Prior to this problem I did have coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been dry and the cake was wet - not good
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that the ERROR 06 code is caused by an electronic bug and I should change the PEC or the Display board. I do not think this is correct. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 13, 2009

    I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed malfunctions which result in a number of problems. Currently the main problem is that the machine starts the coffee cycle to produce coffee but water does not seem to go in and coffee therefore does not come out. It remains dry. The thermoblock heats up the mechanical actions of the tamping head and balista valve seem to work but no fluid comes out. After a period of time I get an ERROR 06 displayed and I have to shut down the machine. Staring from cold again, if I select 'hot water only' then the correct amount of hot water comes out and all is fine for this function.
    Prior to this problem I did have coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been dry and the cake was wet - not good
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that the ERROR 06 code is caused by an electronic bug and I should change the PEC or the Display board. I do not think this is correct. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 14, 2009

    Hi Taran,



    Thanks - yes in fact I have previously already removed the filter altogther so there is no reduction or blockage to the flow and the water is getting through just fine. The machine seems to be working better now - I get coffee out of the nozzle when I select ESPRESSO etc which is good but it still does not evacuate (drain away) the water out of the bottom of the thermoblock after the cycle and you get the sound of bubbling boiling water at the end - this is not right. Grateful for your solution

    Thanks Phil

  • mexsto Oct 14, 2009

    Thanks protek480 but I think the cold water solenoid is OK because I do get water into the thermoblock when I demand HOT water only.

    Thanks - any other ideas



    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 15, 2009

    I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed a malfunction which resulted in coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been drained and the cake was wet - not a good sign
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that this may be due to a faulty distributor plunger. I have checked this but it seems fine. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 17, 2009

    - I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed a malfunction which resulted in coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been drained and the cake was wet - not a good sign
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that this may be due to a faulty distributor plunger. I have checked this but it seems fine. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 17, 2009

    Thanks Herbalgarden - this is useful. I would like to know how to get at this switch. Is it part of the Distributor????? I think I know most of the separate parts of the system now.

    I have thought that something must be clogged but have been afraid to dismantle the distributor in case I get some sequencing cogs in the wrong order. Very grateful for your advice

    Cheers



    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 17, 2009

    - I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed a malfunction which resulted in coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been drained and the cake was wet - not a good sign
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that this may be due to a faulty distributor plunger. I have checked this but it seems fine. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 18, 2009

    I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed malfunctions which result in a number of problems. Currently the main problem is that the machine starts the coffee cycle to produce coffee but water does not seem to go in and coffee therefore does not come out. It remains dry. The thermoblock heats up the mechanical actions of the tamping head and balista valve seem to work but no fluid comes out. After a period of time I get an ERROR 06 displayed and I have to shut down the machine. Staring from cold again, if I select 'hot water only' then the correct amount of hot water comes out and all is fine for this function.
    I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed malfunctions which result in a number of problems. Currently the main problem is that the machine starts the coffee cycle to produce coffee but water does not seem to go in and coffee therefore does not come out. It remains dry. The thermoblock heats up the mechanical actions of the tamping head and balista valve seem to work but no fluid comes out. After a period of time I get an ERROR 06 displayed and I have to shut down the machine. Staring from cold again, if I select 'hot water only' then the correct amount of hot water comes out and all is fine for this function.
    Prior to this problem I did have coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been dry and the cake was wet - not good
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that the ERROR 06 code is caused by an electronic bug and I should change the PEC or the Display board. I do not think this is correct. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 19, 2009

    - I have an XP 7220 D coffee machine which I upgraded from an XP 7220 B last year. It has worked fine but recently developed a malfunction which resulted in coffee coming out of the nozzle but water remained in the thermoblock after the cycle and was not drained away. It bubbled away when it should have been drained and the cake was wet - not a good sign
    I have consulted the repair manual and it says that this may be due to a faulty distributor plunger. I have checked this but it seems fine. Can you please help?
    Thanks.
    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 20, 2009

    I am really not getting the advice I need to fix my XP 7220 problem. Just to recap - I always seem to get water left in the thermobloc AFTER the rinsing or coffee cycle. This is not right and I want to solve this problem
    Thanks
    Mexsto

  • mexsto Oct 21, 2009

    XP 7220
    I have water remaining in the thermobloc AFTER making coffee. It should be drained away but it is not
    Pse help

  • mexsto Oct 23, 2009

    The real problem now is that I have water remaining in the thermobloc AFTER making coffee. It bubbles away and makes the cake wet when it should be drained away. I have checked the drain pipe and it is not blocked, the plunger is fine and I have replaced the O-ring seals and greased them. Pse help with a diagnosis
    Thanks Phil

  • mexsto Oct 26, 2009

    Thanks but I regret this advice is no help at all



    Phil

  • mexsto Oct 26, 2009

    Oct 23, 2009 - The real problem now is that I have water remaining in the thermobloc AFTER making coffee. It bubbles away and makes the cake wet when it should be drained away. I have checked the drain pipe and it is not blocked, the plunger is fine and I have replaced the O-ring seals and greased them. Pse help with a diagnosis
    Thanks Phil

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There is a design flaw with this machine - the flow-meter, made by AWECO, is erratic - you will get Error 06. Open the machine and look for a circular object in the bottom-rear-right corner as you look from the front - it has two small water-pipes attached to it. Unhook this flow-meter and rotate it so that it sits in the same orientation as a bike wheel and your problem will be solved -

Enjoy . . .

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remove the filter basket,and looked at the bottom where there is a small spring action "thing" push that up and down and that allows the coffee to then flow into the carafe, that spring action "thing" should work automatically but if that system is not working then it will not work. -------- the hot steam droplets always remain in the thermo block which is later converted into water.
------------ Most espresso machines advantageously make use of boilers or thermoblocks for brewing the espresso. In case of home coffe machines usually it is the same boiler that is used to also produce the steam for frothing milk. Thus, this is referred to as a single boiler system. The temperature and pressure in the boiler is made higher upon pressing the steam button. Within a minute or so the required pressure is built up.
In case of some coffe machines, especially in the automatic and semiautomatic machine types, there is provided a separate boiler or thermoblock for the steam generation function. Solid performers among coffee machines like Capresso espresso Classic etc etc have stainless steel lined thermoblocks or boilers. This helps in the prevention of water from coming into contact with aluminum at any time while the brewing process is in progress.
The thermoblocks heat the water as it passes through a tube that remains encased in an aluminum block with a built in element. Applying a pulsing action the pump pushes water drops into the thermoblock or boiler where it soon gets transformed to steam. While the water held by the boiler remains at a constant temperature for coffee making, steam is quickly produced by the thermoblock.
The ability of the thermoblocks to continuously make steam renders them suitable for preparing coffee on a large scale for serving bigger groups. That is the reason why even superautomatic machines make use of the thermoblock or boiler. Indeed, the thermoblock technology has provided an impetus to the development of the advanced coffee machines.
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There is a switch valve for the hot and cold water, it sounds as if the valve is faulty or clogged. If you have hard water (lime,Iron, or calcium deposites) it clogs the switch. Not so much with the hot water as the minerals in hot water generally don't flow as freely as they do in cold water therefore they have a harder time building up on the hot water side of the valve, as with cold water the minerals have more travel ability and can attack and eventually clog the passage. If you have a water softener or you do not have hard water then its a faulty valve switch. Hope this helps

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Try this :

Remove the coffee cleaning tray. Clean it under hot water with liquid detergent and dry thoroughly before re-fitting it. Remove and empty the coffee ground collector. Clean it under hot water with liquid detergent thoroughly and re-fit it. Empty and clean the drip tray under hot water with liquid detergent.

If you do not fit the coffee grounds collector back correctly, a warning message will come up. Just re-fit it until it asks for you to confirm that you've emptied it. You can not make espresso or coffee with this warning message displayed, so be sure you get this fitted properly.

Next, to preform the cleaning program, you will need a recipient with a minimum capacity of 0.6 litres and a KRUPS (XS 3000) cleaning tablet.

Press the PROG key then choose MAINTENANCE, then OK, then CLEANING to start the automatic cleaning program. Just follow the instructions shown on the screen. The automatic cleaning program cleans itself, then rinses twice. It lasts about 20 minutes.

Now descale it. You will need a recipient with a minimum capacity of 0.6 litres and a KRUPS F 054 (40 g) cleaning sachet. Press the PROG key, then choose MAINTENANCE, then OK, then SCALE REMOVAL to start the descaling process. Follow the instructions on the screen.

After this process is over, remove the power supply cord from the socket and let your appliance cool down. Rinse the water tank with fresh water.

This will probably help your problem, especially if the machine is scaled or clogged near a sensor, which would block certain functions. If this does not work, please leave a comment and I will be glad to further assist you.

Hope this helps. =)

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For the m/c to make coffee needs steam & steam is not being generated at all. Therefore the heating element is unable to generate steam due to deposition of calcium or some other suspended solids present in the water which have accumulated in the aluminum pipe thus not heating the water enough to produce steam. You can try rinsing with vinegar, at let it stay for half an hour and then simply rinse/drain the vinegar at least twice, so that all the vinegar is washed out. The other explanation for this type of behavior is that it seems(remote possibility) that the unit steam holes have worn out and are not in good condition, The aluminum pipes could be a deformed inside that's why you have this kind of problem, this can be due to heat and esp.. the steam nozzle deform. Thus no steam for the espresso but will give you hot water when asked for. Hope this helps............................sodeep

Posted on Oct 21, 2009

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    Sudeep Chatterjee Oct 27, 2009

    Sorry, I had thought in a comment ( by me ) mentioned therein To check the small filter attached to the drain plug( an elbow) & a reverse flow by a piece of garden hose+ a rubber adapter one end larger than the other(hole).....Oops! Sorry no puns intended please.

    Well this back-flow + a empty ball-point refill sliced off to look like injection needle, used as poker ought to clean any jam. Have to hurry before the house comes to life......sodeep


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Hi.

The lines are probably clogged by scale, and pressure is insufficient to brew or to get steam.

This can be caused either by clogged lines, or by limescale on thermostat and heating element that wont allow the machine to reach enough temperature and pressure.

Try to descale the machine using a descaler product:

Cleancaf Home Coffee Maker and Espresso Machine Cleaner / Descaler ...

Urnex Cafiza, 20oz Espresso and coffee machine cleaner powder 2 ...




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Hello. Here is the info for you to get your xp7220 repaired. It may still be under warranty. The problem you are experiencing has no quick fix and requires special tools.

http://www.krupsusa.com/Consumer+Services/Service+Centers/List/CentersList.htm

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The cold water solenoid is not working. It could be jammed with hard water and need a cleaning or replace.

Posted on Oct 13, 2009

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    Craig Butler Oct 17, 2009

    I think the drain is plugged and needs to be cleaned. Try to force something down, even 'liquid draino' to see if the drain is plugged. Maybe you could straighten a clothes hanger and try to push it in the drain.

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    Craig Butler Oct 23, 2009

    Check drain tube for obstructions and elevation with respect to machine thermoblock. Is the drain hose kinked or elevated in some way?


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Hi,

I am sorry as i cannot READ the earlier solutions, would not be able to comment.

Switch OFF the machine and then check the CAUSE.

There might be 3 possibilities :-

1. Water supply to machine interrupted - Check all supply tabs are open.

2. Water Mains Failure - Check other water supply points / faucet are working

3. Damaged Water Feed pipe - Check for damaged / kinked pipe

For all this, you need to do De Scaling ( I am surprised if no one tell you about this. I have most repaired all this by De scaling the machine ) .

Let me know, if need further assistance.

Hope i helped you.

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Posted on Oct 12, 2009

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    taran_2005 Oct 13, 2009

    Thanks for your response!!

    You never mention the Error Code earlier. That might be one of the reasons, you are getting some other information. Check the below option that was given by an expert and it was in par with this problem with another customer :-

    The issue is with the water filter. If you haven't changed it for a long
    time - change it. If you recently got a new one follow these steps:
    - take the filter out
    - unplug the machine from electricity
    - plug it back in
    - install filter (go into prog- service- install new filter)

    It should remove the error.

    Let me know, if the problem still remains.

    Thanks.


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    taran_2005 Oct 13, 2009

    Oops now, i saw that error code in Comments!!

    Huh, still try and let me know the result.

    Thanks!!


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Sounds like valve or circuit is fualty. Valves can get wornout or stuck, circuits can get overheated and cause faulty or burnt out capacitors

Posted on Oct 12, 2009

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    Nate Stansfield Oct 26, 2009

    You can check and see if there is a water level sensor or a pump timer. Does it happen no matter how much water is in it?

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Is this a new machine recently installed ?

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The brain of this thing is the boss,I think it has brain damage.The pc board is the brains behind this machine and it distributes the commands to each mode.I believe that this is the problem,you have been very good at the test and trials so far,according to your text.All the testing(good on your part)is done.Now it all points to the p c board.I am going by what you have done and tested,and suggestions from other techs.I hope my input was helpful,and you have done all the testing I would have asked about,and according to your results,well,the board is the problem.If this was at all helpful please let us know,thank you.

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This is probably a pump that failed most of these have two pumps that pump the water from a container this pump **** the water from one area to a heating element and then to the next area that might be bad you might want to check that.

Please do click the accept button if you found this helpful

Posted on Oct 20, 2009

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    Grand Canyon Tech Oct 22, 2009

    I was reading up on this same problem and the fix was what was in the manual anyhow but you seem to think otherwise so I invite your concerns you went threw what 6-10 experts sounds like you found the answer or you know what the issue truly is?



    All 10 experts are hitting on the same area 1.plunger 2,distribution unit 3. sensors solenoid





    Recommend hitting the accept button I think the issue needs to be solved if none of our solutions worked with the manufacture..





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