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I have a honeywell economy plus ep50b...when i depress the green button and the igniter to start the pilot light after 30 seconds i let go of the green button the pilot light goes out, i have been told i need to change the therma couple but i would like your pro opinion

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Yes therma coupling needs replacing not a big job check fan is tripping in

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You mentioned the manual no longer being in a helpful condition...do you know which of the 4 buttons, 2 taps, 1 slide control & 1 dial do what?
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