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I just bought a iMac G3 Slot Loading that was running OSX 10.2.8; 400mhx, 576mb RAM and a 10GB hard drive. I needed to update to Tiger. After install, I had some trouble restarting by holding down the On button and the computer shut down. On starting back up, the computer tried to install Tiger again and now all I get is a black screen. I have found the restart button, hitting it gives me the "bong" sound and on restart I only get the black screen. Any assistance would be appreciated.

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    Macs R We May 11, 2010

    First question is, did you spend any time running 10.2.8 on this machine, such that you might be able to say it ran well for a long enough time that we could rule out a general hardware problem with it?

    Please explain why you had to hold down the power button to shut down after installing Tiger. Was it at the point after the installation where it told you to click on the OK button to reboot? What happened?

    If you don't have any data on this machine that needs to be preserved, the most straightforward way around this issue would be simply to reinstall Tiger using "clean install." If there is user data you need to preserve, then the most straightforward way is to reinstall Tiger using "Archive and Install," though you may not have the room to do this on a 10GB drive.

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