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Fill value won't shut off even though flapper

Fill valve won't shut off even though flapper seats properl.

Do I simply replace the fill valve or is there a repair I can make?

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Your fill valve is clogged with sediment.  You probably got one of those cheap *** Fluid Master brands.  Go to Lowes and get a better fill valve made by Korky and happy flushing my friend.

Posted on Oct 26, 2009

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    Poppy Chulo Oct 26, 2009

    You should replace the flapper with a Korky brand also, cause your flapper is not sealing even though it looks like it is sealed.


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Some of these can be solved simply by adjusting the fill valve,check float as well. If these do not solve your problem then you need a replacement.

Posted on Sep 28, 2009

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You could also try bending the metal rod holding the ball, but only as a last resort.

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